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| [[Philippe de Montreux]] || 67 || Chamberlain of the See || {{team flag|Nouvelle Alexandrie}} || Moderate. Institutional continuity; church unity; balance tradition with pastoral adaptation; honor [[Nouvelle Alexandrie|NA]]'s patronage role. || [[User:Edgard|Edgard]] | | [[Philippe de Montreux]] || 67 || Chamberlain of the See || {{team flag|Nouvelle Alexandrie}} || Moderate. Institutional continuity; church unity; balance tradition with pastoral adaptation; honor [[Nouvelle Alexandrie|NA]]'s patronage role. || [[User:Edgard|Edgard]] | ||
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| | | [[Armin Wagner]] ||76 ||Archbishop of [[Petropolis]] || {{team flag|Constancia}} || Moderate with some progressive ideas. || [[User:Primo de Aguilar|Primo]] | ||
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| [[Gwilym Llewellyn]] || 66 || Archbishop of Bysdigon || {{team flag|Sanama}} || Progressive. Loosen ties to House of Carillo; continue liturgical reform; expanded ecumenical dialogue; the Holy See belongs in Geneva. || [[User:Malliki|Malliki]] | | [[Gwilym Llewellyn]] || 66 || Archbishop of Bysdigon || {{team flag|Sanama}} || Progressive. Loosen ties to House of Carillo; continue liturgical reform; expanded ecumenical dialogue; the Holy See belongs in Geneva. || [[User:Malliki|Malliki]] | ||
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Note: This is an out-of-character (OOC) coordination page for organizing the 1752 Alexandrian Nazarene Conclave as a community event. For the Micras narrative article, see Alexandrian Nazarene Conclave, 1752.
The 1752 Alexandrian Nazarene Conclave is a community election event to determine the next Archbishop of Geneva following the death of Archbishop Boniface VII on 24.XV.1751 AN.
An honest note on this event
The Archbishop of Geneva has died. The cardinals are gathering. The future of the Alexandrian Nazarene Church hangs in the balance. It's a big moment for the church, and you're invited to be part of it.
Now, let's be real: most of the cardinals (86 of 107) are controlled by one player. So this is less of a competitive election, and more of collaborative storytelling through an election. The voting adds drama and structure, but we're really here to tell a good story together.
The real value and fun here is your participation:
- Create a candidate and shape the church's future
- Contribute to a major Micras storyline
- Be part of the Great Reconciliation narrative that follows (more about that below...)
How it works
- Each nation gets cardinals based on their Alexandrian Nazarene population.
- Allocate your cardinals to any candidate(s) via Google Form.
- If no one gets 72 votes (two-thirds), we hold another ballot.
- Repeat until someone wins.
Cardinal allocation
| Nation | Cardinals | Controller | Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| 49 | Edgard | ||
| 28 | Edgard | ||
| 4 | Edgard | ||
| Curial (NPC) | 5 | Edgard | |
| Edgard Subtotal | 86 | ||
| 7 | Primo | ||
| 4 | Leche | ||
| 3 | Ardy | ||
| 1 | Ric | ||
| 1 | TBD (Orion?) | ||
| 1 | Primo | ||
| 1 | Malliki | ||
| 1 | TBD (Ric? Barnaby?) | ||
| 1 | Joe | ||
| 1 (Curial) | Samadam | ||
| Others Subtotal | 21 | ||
| TOTAL | 107 | 72 to win |
- Note: Sanpantul's vote represents the small Alexandrian Nazarene congregation (~2,500 faithful) in Dabajuro, assigned a Curial seat to ensure diaspora representation.[1]
- Note: Hurmu's vote represents the Diocese of Hurmu, a small diaspora community (~25,000 faithful) in the Lake District, led by Cardinal Andres Villarreal Argento (elevated 1748 AN).
- Note: Aerla's cardinals represent the Aerlan Nazarene Church, a sui iuris church in full communion with the Holy See of St. Natsanet.
Issues facing the church
The next Archbishop inherits a church at a crossroads. Several unresolved questions will define his tenure.
The Neridian Schism
The Neridian Church split from the autocephalous church in 1654 AN, rejecting the post-imperial reorganization. They believe ecclesiastical authority should remain tied to the Emperor, not an independent Sacred College. After 98 years apart, 25 million Neridians remain in schism. Recent dialogue under Patriarch Gregorius IV has raised hopes for reunion, but reconciliation would require resolving fundamental disagreements about church governance and the role of the House of Carrillo.
- The question: Should the church prioritize reunification with the Neridians? What concessions, if any, are acceptable?
The Imperial Restoration problem
The Church of the Imperial Restoration teaches that Edgard III is a messianic figure destined to restore the Alexandrian Empire. The autocephalous church has condemned this as heresy. The movement has 25,000-40,000 adherents, mostly working-class Afro-Alexandrians in Natopia. Edgard III has never publicly addressed their claims, though the House of Carrillo has officially distanced itself.
- The question: How aggressively should the church confront this movement? Can its followers be brought back into orthodox teaching without alienating them entirely?
House of Carrillo relations
The House of Carrillo has historic ties to the church dating to the imperial period. Nouvelle Alexandrie holds formal patronage over the church, while the Holy See of St. Natsanet sits in Geneva, Natopia, where Edgard III serves as Co-Emperor of Western Natopia. This creates tension: NA provides institutional support, but the church's spiritual center is in Natopian territory under Carrillo influence.
- The question: How close should the church be to the House of Carrillo? Should the Archbishop maintain, strengthen, or loosen these ties?
Liturgical tradition vs. reform
The late Archbishop Boniface VII introduced modest liturgical reforms during his tenure, including expanded use of vernacular languages and simplified ceremonial practices. Conservatives argue these changes dilute Alexandrian Nazarene identity. Progressives want further adaptation to contemporary contexts.
- The question: Continue Boniface VII's reforms, reverse them, or hold the current line?
Ecumenical dialogue
The church maintains varying relationships with other religious bodies, from cautious engagement with the Dozan Bovic Church to outright condemnation of syncretic movements like the Alexandrian Nazarene Church of the Sun. Some cardinals favor expanded interfaith dialogue; others worry it compromises doctrinal clarity.
- The question: How open should the church be to ecumenical engagement? Where are the boundaries?
The Holy See's location
The Holy See has been in Geneva since the imperial period. Some argue this is proper, given Geneva's status as the ancient Alexandrian capital. Others note that Nouvelle Alexandrie now holds formal patronage and has the largest concentration of faithful. Moving the Holy See is unlikely, but the symbolic weight of its location shapes church politics.
- The question: This is mostly settled, but it informs how cardinals view the Natopia vs. NA dynamic in candidate selection.
Cardinal alignments
Cardinals are not monolithic blocs. Based on voting patterns in recent Sacred College deliberations and public statements, Edgard estimates the following ideological distribution for the cardinals he controls:
| Nation | Total | Conservative | Undecided | Centrist | Progressive |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 49 | 25 | 12 | 8 | 4 | |
| 28 | 4 | 7 | 11 | 6 | |
| 4 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 0 | |
| Curial (NPC) | 5 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 0 |
| Edgard Subtotal | 86 | 31 | 22 | 23 | 10 |
| Alignment | Cardinals | Description |
|---|---|---|
| Conservative | 31 | Favor traditional liturgy, cautious on ecumenism, support strong House of Carrillo ties. |
| Undecided | 22 | Have not declared or hold mixed views. Many are pastoral pragmatists focused on institutional stability rather than ideology. |
| Centrist | 23 | Balance tradition with adaptation, prioritize church unity, open to reform within limits. |
| Progressive | 10 | Support continued liturgical reform, expanded ecumenical dialogue, engagement with contemporary issues. |
- These are estimates for narrative purposes. Actual voting may differ as cardinals respond to changing circumstances during the conclave.
Other nations
The remaining 21 cardinals are controlled by other players. Their ideological alignments are up to them to determine:
| Nation | Cardinals | Controller | Alignment |
|---|---|---|---|
| 7 | Primo | Up to Primo | |
| 4 | Leche | Up to Leche | |
| 2 | Ardy | Up to Ardy | |
| 1 | Ric | Up to Ric | |
| 1 | TBD | TBD | |
| 1 | Primo | Up to Primo | |
| 1 | Malliki | Up to Malliki | |
| 1 | TBD | TBD | |
| 1 | Joe | Up to Joe | |
| 1 | Samadam | Up to Samadam |
What this means
- 72 votes needed to win. Edgard controls 86, other players control 21.
- Cardinals are split. No single alignment commands a majority even within Edgard's bloc.
- Other players' 21 votes matter. They can tip the balance, back a surprise candidate, or shape the narrative.
Candidates
| Candidate | Age | Position | Backed By | Platform | Controller |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Gregorio Aguilar | 69 | Archbishop of Dos Gardenias | Traditionalist. Preserve classical liturgy; strengthen House of Carrillo ties; the Holy See belongs in Geneva, Natopia (the ancient capital of Alexandria) where it has always been. | Edgard | |
| Philippe de Montreux | 67 | Chamberlain of the See | Moderate. Institutional continuity; church unity; balance tradition with pastoral adaptation; honor NA's patronage role. | Edgard | |
| Armin Wagner | 76 | Archbishop of Petropolis | Moderate with some progressive ideas. | Primo | |
| Gwilym Llewellyn | 66 | Archbishop of Bysdigon | Progressive. Loosen ties to House of Carillo; continue liturgical reform; expanded ecumenical dialogue; the Holy See belongs in Geneva. | Malliki |
- Constancia and Sanama were chosen at random to create candidates. - Edgard (talk) 01:37, 2 January 2026 (UTC)
How to vote
- Edgard will share a Google Form link.
- Select your nation.
- Allocate your cardinals among the candidates.
- Submit. Edgard confirms receipt.
Rules:
- Vote all for one candidate, or split among several.
- Total must equal your cardinal count.
Timeline
| Event | Date (IRL) |
|---|---|
| Candidate list finalized | TBD |
| Ballot 1 | TBD |
| Results / Ballot 2 if needed | TBD |
| Winner announced | TBD |
Results
Ballot 1
- Pending
After the election
- Wiki articles updated
- News coverage drafted
Great Reconciliation
The election of the new Archbishop sets the stage for the Great Reconciliation, a major storyline that will unfold sometime between 1752 AN and 1755 AN. This is where things get interesting.
For nearly a century, the Neridian Church has been in schism, rejecting the autocephalous constitution of 1652 AN. With 25 million adherents, they represent the largest schismatic body in Alexandrian Nazarene Christianity. Meanwhile, the Church of the Imperial Restoration has been claiming that Edgard III is a messianic figure, which is theologically problematic and personally uncomfortable for Edgard III himself.
The Great Reconciliation resolves both issues in a dramatic convergence of events:
- Edgard III issues the Renunciation of St. Luis, formally and permanently renouncing any claim to spiritual authority over the Alexandrian Nazarene faithful. This separates the House of Carrillo from church governance once and for all.
- The Neridian Church returns to communion after 98 years of schism, bringing 25 million faithful back into the fold. This is the most significant ecclesiastical reconciliation in Alexandrian Nazarene history.
- The Archbishop's title is elevated to Holy Father of the Faithful, Successor of St. Natsanet, and Patriarch Universal. He basically becomes "the Pope" of the Alexandrian Nazarene faith without us blatantly stealing the title.
Who wins this election will shape how (or whether) that story unfolds!
Contact
DM Edgard on Discord.