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{{Notice|'''Note:''' This is an '''out-of-character (OOC) coordination page''' for organizing the 1752 Alexandrian Nazarene Conclave as a community event. For the Micras narrative article, see [[Alexandrian Nazarene Conclave, 1752]].}}


The '''1752 Alexandrian Nazarene Conclave''' is a community election event to determine the next [[Archbishop of Geneva]] following the death of Archbishop [[Manuel Horizonte|Boniface VII]] on 24.XV.{{AN|1751}}.
The '''1752 Alexandrian Nazarene Conclave''' is a community election event to determine the next [[Archbishop of Geneva]] following the death of Archbishop [[Manuel Horizonte|Boniface VII]] on 24.XV.{{AN|1751}}.


==Overview==
==An honest note on this event==
This election uses a simplified voting system inspired by [[Hurmu]]'s Senate elections. Nation controllers vote on behalf of their cardinals via Google Form. Balloting continues until one candidate achieves a two-thirds majority (64 of 96 votes).
The Archbishop of Geneva has died. The cardinals are gathering. The future of the [[Church of Alexandria|Alexandrian Nazarene Church]] hangs in the balance. It's a big moment for the church, and you're invited to be part of it.
 
Now, let's be real: most of the cardinals (86 of 107) are controlled by [[User:Edgard|one player]]. So this is less of a competitive election, and more of collaborative storytelling ''through'' an election. The voting adds drama and structure, but we're really here to tell a good story together.
 
The real value and fun here is your participation:
* Create a candidate and shape the church's future
* Contribute to a major Micras storyline
* Be part of the [[Great Reconciliation]] narrative that follows (''more about that below...'')


==How it works==
==How it works==
# Each nation controller receives votes equal to their nation's cardinal allocation.
# Each nation gets cardinals based on their Alexandrian Nazarene population.
# Controllers may vote all their cardinals as a bloc for one candidate, or split votes among multiple candidates.
# Allocate your cardinals to any candidate(s) via Google Form.
# Votes are submitted via Google Form (link to be provided).
# If no one gets 72 votes (two-thirds), we hold another ballot.
# If no candidate achieves 64 votes, results are announced and another ballot is held.
# Repeat until someone wins.
# Balloting continues until a candidate wins.
 
==Cardinal allocation==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Nation !! Cardinals !! Controller !! Status
|-
| {{team flag|Natopia}} || 49 || [[User:Edgard|Edgard]] || {{yes}}
|-
| {{team flag|Nouvelle Alexandrie}} || 28 || [[User:Edgard|Edgard]] || {{yes}}
|-
| {{team flag|Oportia}} || 4 || [[User:Edgard|Edgard]] || {{yes}}
|-
| Curial (NPC) || 5 || [[User:Edgard|Edgard]] || {{yes}}
|-
! [[User:Edgard|Edgard]] Subtotal !! 86 !! !!
|-
| {{team flag|Constancia}} || 7 || [[User:Primo de Aguilar|Primo]] || {{yes}}
|-
| {{team flag|Aerla}} || 4 || [[User:Leche|Leche]] || {{yes}}
|-
| {{team flag|Ransenar}} || 3 || [[User:Continuator|Ardy]] || {{yes}}
|-
| {{team flag|Order of the Holy Lakes}} || 1 || [[User:Ric|Ric]] || {{yes}}
|-
| {{team flag|Lac Glacei}} || 1 || TBD (Orion?) || {{steady}}
|-
| {{team flag|Zeed}} || 1 || [[User:Primo de Aguilar|Primo]] || {{yes}}
|-
| {{team flag|Sanama}} || 1 || [[User:Malliki|Malliki]] || {{yes}}
|-
| {{team flag|Senya}} || 1 || TBD (Ric? Barnaby?) || {{steady}}
|-
| {{team flag|Mercury}} || 1 || [[User:Joe|Joe]] || {{yes}}
|-
| {{team flag|Sanpantul}} || 1 ''(Curial)'' || [[User:Samadam|Samadam]] || {{yes}}
|-
! Others Subtotal !! 21 !! !!
|-
! '''TOTAL''' !! '''107''' !! !! '''72 to win'''
|}
* ''Note: [[Sanpantul]]'s vote represents the small [[Alexandrian Nazarene]] congregation (~2,500 faithful) in Dabajuro, assigned a Curial seat to ensure diaspora representation.''<ref>https://discord.com/channels/116534974303174658/1118651127060234250/1455617076738916373</ref>
* ''Note: [[Hurmu]]'s vote represents the [[Alexandrian Nazarene Church of Hurmu|Diocese of Hurmu]], a small diaspora community (~25,000 faithful) in the [[Lake District]], led by Cardinal [[Andres Villarreal Argento]] (elevated {{AN|1748}}).''
* ''Note: [[Aerla]]'s cardinals represent the [[Aerlan Nazarene Church]], a ''[[wikipedia:sui iuris|sui iuris]]'' church in full communion with the [[Holy See of St. Natsanet]].''
 
==Issues facing the church==
The next Archbishop inherits a church at a crossroads. Several unresolved questions will define his tenure.
 
===The Neridian Schism===
The [[Autocephalous_Nazarene_Church_of_Alexandria#Neridian_Church|Neridian Church]] split from the autocephalous church in {{AN|1654}}, rejecting the post-imperial reorganization. They believe ecclesiastical authority should remain tied to the Emperor, not an independent Sacred College. After 98 years apart, 25 million Neridians remain in schism. Recent dialogue under Patriarch [[Gregorius IV]] has raised hopes for reunion, but reconciliation would require resolving fundamental disagreements about church governance and the role of the [[House of Carrillo]].
* '''The question:''' Should the church prioritize reunification with the Neridians? What concessions, if any, are acceptable?
 
===The Imperial Restoration problem===
The [[Autocephalous_Nazarene_Church_of_Alexandria#Church_of_the_Imperial_Restoration|Church of the Imperial Restoration]] teaches that [[Edgard III]] is a messianic figure destined to restore the Alexandrian Empire. The autocephalous church has condemned this as heresy. The movement has 25,000-40,000 adherents, mostly working-class Afro-Alexandrians in [[Natopia]]. Edgard III has never publicly addressed their claims, though the House of Carrillo has officially distanced itself.
* '''The question:''' How aggressively should the church confront this movement? Can its followers be brought back into orthodox teaching without alienating them entirely?
 
===House of Carrillo relations===
The [[House of Carrillo]] has historic ties to the church dating to the imperial period. [[Nouvelle Alexandrie]] holds formal patronage over the church, while the [[Holy See of St. Natsanet]] sits in [[Geneva]], [[Natopia]], where Edgard III serves as Co-Emperor of [[Western Natopia]]. This creates tension: NA provides institutional support, but the church's spiritual center is in Natopian territory under Carrillo influence.
* '''The question:''' How close should the church be to the House of Carrillo? Should the Archbishop maintain, strengthen, or loosen these ties?
 
===Liturgical tradition vs. reform===
The late Archbishop [[Manuel Horizonte|Boniface VII]] introduced modest liturgical reforms during his tenure, including expanded use of vernacular languages and simplified ceremonial practices. Conservatives argue these changes dilute Alexandrian Nazarene identity. Progressives want further adaptation to contemporary contexts.
* '''The question:''' Continue Boniface VII's reforms, reverse them, or hold the current line?
 
===Ecumenical dialogue===
The church maintains varying relationships with other religious bodies, from cautious engagement with the [[Dozan Bovic Church]] to outright condemnation of syncretic movements like the [[Autocephalous_Nazarene_Church_of_Alexandria#Alexandrian_Nazarene_Church_of_the_Sun|Alexandrian Nazarene Church of the Sun]]. Some cardinals favor expanded interfaith dialogue; others worry it compromises doctrinal clarity.
* '''The question:''' How open should the church be to ecumenical engagement? Where are the boundaries?
 
===The Holy See's location===
The Holy See has been in [[Geneva]] since the imperial period. Some argue this is proper, given Geneva's status as the ancient Alexandrian capital. Others note that [[Nouvelle Alexandrie]] now holds formal patronage and has the largest concentration of faithful. Moving the Holy See is unlikely, but the symbolic weight of its location shapes church politics.
* '''The question:''' This is mostly settled, but it informs how cardinals view the Natopia vs. NA dynamic in candidate selection.
 
==Cardinal alignments==
Cardinals are not monolithic blocs. Based on voting patterns in recent Sacred College deliberations and public statements, [[User:Edgard|Edgard]] estimates the following ideological distribution for the cardinals he controls:


==Timeline==
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|-
! Date (IRL) !! Event
! Nation !! Total !! Conservative !! Undecided !! Centrist !! Progressive
|-
| {{team flag|Natopia}} || '''49''' || 25 || 12 || 8 || 4
|-
| {{team flag|Nouvelle Alexandrie}} || '''28''' || 4 || 7 || 11 || 6
|-
| {{team flag|Oportia}} || '''4''' || 1 || 1 || 2 || 0
|-
| Curial (NPC) || '''5''' || 1 || 2 || 2 || 0
|-
! '''Edgard Subtotal''' !! '''86''' !! '''31''' !! '''22''' !! '''23''' !! '''10'''
|}
 
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|-
| TBD || Candidate list finalized
! Alignment !! Cardinals !! Description
|-
|-
| TBD || Ballot 1 opens (Google Form link distributed)
| '''Conservative''' || 31 || Favor traditional liturgy, cautious on ecumenism, support strong [[House of Carrillo]] ties.
|-
|-
| TBD || Ballot 1 closes; results announced
| '''Undecided''' || 22 || Have not declared or hold mixed views. Many are pastoral pragmatists focused on institutional stability rather than ideology.
|-
|-
| TBD (if needed) || Subsequent ballots until 2/3rds majority achieved
| '''Centrist''' || 23 || Balance tradition with adaptation, prioritize church unity, open to reform within limits.
|-
|-
| TBD || Winner announced; IC articles updated
| '''Progressive''' || 10 || Support continued liturgical reform, expanded ecumenical dialogue, engagement with contemporary issues.
|}
|}
* ''These are estimates for narrative purposes. Actual voting may differ as cardinals respond to changing circumstances during the conclave.''
===Other nations===
The remaining '''21 cardinals''' are controlled by other players. Their ideological alignments are up to them to determine:


==Cardinal Allocation by Nation==
* ''Pending reallocation and involvement of other nations - this will be subject to change to accommodate everyone.''
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|-
! Nation !! Cardinals !! Controller !! Notes
! Nation !! Cardinals !! Controller !! Alignment
|-
| {{team flag|Constancia}} || 7 || [[User:Primo de Aguilar|Primo]] || ''Up to Primo''
|-
| {{team flag|Aerla}} || 4 || [[User:Leche|Leche]] || ''Up to Leche''
|-
|-
| {{team flag|Natopia}} || 42 || Edgard || Largest bloc; includes Geneva, Dos Gardenias, Markion City
| {{team flag|Ransenar}} || 3 || [[User:Continuator|Ardy]] || ''Up to Ardy''
|-
|-
| {{team flag|Nouvelle Alexandrie}} || 28 || Edgard || Includes Punta Santiago, Parap, Cárdenas
| {{team flag|Hurmu}} || 1 || [[User:Ric|Ric]] || ''Up to Ric''
|-
|-
| {{team flag|Constancia}} || 10 || Primo || Includes Aqaba, New Edgardia
| {{team flag|Lac Glacei}} || 1 || TBD || ''TBD''
|-
|-
| {{team flag|Oportia}} || 6 || Edgard || Includes Vanie
| {{team flag|Zeed}} || 1 || [[User:Primo de Aguilar|Primo]] || ''Up to Primo''
|-
|-
| {{team flag|Ransenar}} || 5 || Ardy || Includes Goldfield
| {{team flag|Sanama}} || 1 || [[User:Malliki|Malliki]] || ''Up to Malliki''
|-
|-
| Curial officials || 5 || Shared/NPC? || Administrative cardinals; allocation TBD
| {{team flag|Senya}} || 1 || TBD || ''TBD''
|-
|-
! Total !! 96 !! !! 64 votes needed to win
| {{team flag|Mercury}} || 1 || [[User:Joe|Joe]] || ''Up to Joe''
|-
| {{team flag|Sanpantul}} || 1 || [[User:Samadam|Samadam]] || ''Up to Samadam''
|}
|}
===What this means===
* 72 votes needed to win. Edgard controls 86, other players control 21.
* Cardinals are split. No single alignment commands a majority even within Edgard's bloc.
* Other players' 21 votes matter. They can tip the balance, back a surprise candidate, or shape the narrative.


==Candidates==
==Candidates==
* In development.
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Candidate !! Age !! Position !! Backed By !! Platform !! Controller
|-
| [[Gregorio Aguilar]] || 69 || Archbishop of [[Dos Gardenias]] || {{team flag|Natopia}} || Traditionalist. Preserve classical liturgy; strengthen [[House of Carrillo]] ties; the Holy See belongs in [[Geneva]], [[Natopia]] (the ancient capital of [[Alexandria]]) where it has always been. || [[User:Edgard|Edgard]]
|-
| [[Philippe de Montreux]] || 67 || Chamberlain of the See || {{team flag|Nouvelle Alexandrie}} || Moderate. Institutional continuity; church unity; balance tradition with pastoral adaptation; honor [[Nouvelle Alexandrie|NA]]'s patronage role. || [[User:Edgard|Edgard]]
|-
| [[Armin Wagner]] || 76 || Archbishop of [[Petropolis]] || {{team flag|Constancia}} || Moderate-progressive. Prioritize [[Autocephalous_Nazarene_Church_of_Alexandria#Neridian_Church|Neridian reconciliation]]; the Holy See belongs in [[Geneva]] (proximity to Neridian communities aids reunion); pastoral focus over political entanglements; cautious ecumenical engagement. Advocate for [[wikipedia:Laudato Si|everyone to have a care for creation]]. Wants to call an [[wikipedia:Conciliarity|ecumenical council]] to advise on resolution of Church issues. Strong believer in [[wikipedia:Synodality|Synodality]]. Champion of [[Social Nazarenism]]. || [[User:Primo de Aguilar|Primo]]
|-
| [[Gwilym Llewellyn]] || 66 || Archbishop of Bysdigon || {{team flag|Sanama}} || Progressive. Loosen ties to [[House of Carrillo]]; continue liturgical reform; expanded ecumenical dialogue; the Holy See belongs in [[Geneva]]. || [[User:Malliki|Malliki]]
|}
* [[Constancia]] and [[Sanama]] were chosen at random to create candidates. - [[User:Edgard|Edgard]] ([[User talk:Edgard|talk]]) 01:37, 2 January 2026 (UTC)


===Nominating Additional Candidates===
==How to vote==
Controllers may nominate additional cardinal candidates by posting in the Discord or contacting Edgard. New candidates should include:
# Edgard will share a Google Form link.
* Name
# Select your nation.
* Age (must be under 75)
# Allocate your cardinals among the candidates.
* Current position (must hold rank of Archbishop)
# Submit. Edgard confirms receipt.
* Factional alignment (Traditionalist / Progressive / Moderate)
* Brief platform summary


==Voting Instructions==
'''Rules:'''
# Wait for the Google Form link to be distributed.
* Vote all for one candidate, or split among several.
# Enter your name/handle.
* Total must equal your cardinal count.
# Enter the number of cardinals you control.
 
# Allocate your votes among the candidates (can be all to one, or split).
==Timeline==
# Submit.
{| class="wikitable"
# Edgard will confirm receipt and verify votes are in good form.
|-
! Event !! Date (IRL)
|-
| Candidate list finalized || TBD
|-
| Ballot 1 || TBD
|-
| Results / Ballot 2 if needed || TBD
|-
| Winner announced || TBD
|}


==Results==
==Results==
Results will be posted here after each ballot.
===Ballot 1===
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Candidate !! Edgard (86) !! Players (21) !! '''Total''' !! %
|-
| [[Gregorio Aguilar]] || 32 || 5 || '''37''' || 34.6%
|-
| [[Armin Wagner]] || 21 || 10 || '''31''' || 29.0%
|-
| [[Philippe de Montreux]] || 27 || 2 || '''29''' || 27.1%
|-
| [[Gwilym Llewellyn]] || 6 || 4 || '''10''' || 9.3%
|-
! '''Total''' !! '''86''' !! '''21''' !! '''107''' !!
|}
: ''No candidate reaches 72. The conclave proceeds to Ballot 2.''
====Commentary====
The first ballot reveals a fractured Sacred College. Aguilar's conservative bloc leads but commands barely a third of the vote. Wagner's strong showing, bolstered by Constancian support, positions him as the leading alternative. De Montreux holds the institutional center. Llewellyn's progressive platform attracts a dedicated but small following.
===Ballot 2===


===Ballot 1===
==After the election==
: ''Pending''
# Wiki articles updated
# News coverage drafted
 
===Great Reconciliation===
The election of the new Archbishop sets the stage for the [[Great Reconciliation]], a major storyline that will unfold sometime between {{AN|1752}} and {{AN|1755}}. This is where things get interesting.
 
For nearly a century, the [[Autocephalous_Nazarene_Church_of_Alexandria#Neridian_Church|Neridian Church]] has been in schism, rejecting the autocephalous constitution of {{AN|1652}}. With 25 million adherents, they represent the largest schismatic body in Alexandrian Nazarene Christianity. Meanwhile, the [[Autocephalous_Nazarene_Church_of_Alexandria#Church_of_the_Imperial_Restoration|Church of the Imperial Restoration]] has been claiming that [[Edgard III]] is a messianic figure, which is theologically problematic and personally uncomfortable for Edgard III himself.
 
The Great Reconciliation resolves both issues in a dramatic convergence of events:
# [[Edgard III]] issues the '''[[Renunciation of St. Luis]]''', formally and permanently renouncing any claim to spiritual authority over the [[Alexandrian Nazarene]] faithful. This separates the [[House of Carrillo]] from church governance once and for all.
# The [[Autocephalous_Nazarene_Church_of_Alexandria#Neridian_Church|Neridian Church]] returns to communion after 98 years of schism, bringing 25 million faithful back into the fold. This is the most significant ecclesiastical reconciliation in Alexandrian Nazarene history.
# The Archbishop's title is elevated to '''Holy Father of the Faithful, Successor of St. Natsanet, and Patriarch Universal'''. ''He basically becomes "the Pope" of the Alexandrian Nazarene faith without us blatantly stealing the title.''


===Ballot 2 (if needed)===
Who wins this election will shape how (or whether) that story unfolds!
: ''Pending''


==After the Election==
==Contact==
Once a winner is determined:
DM Edgard on Discord.
# The [[Alexandrian Nazarene Conclave, 1752]] article will be updated with results.
# A new Archbishop article will be created.
# The [[Autocephalous Nazarene Church of Alexandria]] article will be updated.
# News coverage will be drafted.


==Questions?==
==References==
* Contact Edgard on Discord or leave a message on [[Talk:Alexandrian_Nazarene_conclave,_1752|the talk page]].
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Latest revision as of 22:48, 7 January 2026

{{{1}}} This article or section is a work in progress. The information below may be incomplete, outdated, or subject to change.
Coat of arms of the Autocephalous Nazarene Church of Alexandria.

Notice Note: This is an out-of-character (OOC) coordination page for organizing the 1752 Alexandrian Nazarene Conclave as a community event. For the Micras narrative article, see Alexandrian Nazarene Conclave, 1752.


The 1752 Alexandrian Nazarene Conclave is a community election event to determine the next Archbishop of Geneva following the death of Archbishop Boniface VII on 24.XV.1751 AN.

An honest note on this event

The Archbishop of Geneva has died. The cardinals are gathering. The future of the Alexandrian Nazarene Church hangs in the balance. It's a big moment for the church, and you're invited to be part of it.

Now, let's be real: most of the cardinals (86 of 107) are controlled by one player. So this is less of a competitive election, and more of collaborative storytelling through an election. The voting adds drama and structure, but we're really here to tell a good story together.

The real value and fun here is your participation:

  • Create a candidate and shape the church's future
  • Contribute to a major Micras storyline
  • Be part of the Great Reconciliation narrative that follows (more about that below...)

How it works

  1. Each nation gets cardinals based on their Alexandrian Nazarene population.
  2. Allocate your cardinals to any candidate(s) via Google Form.
  3. If no one gets 72 votes (two-thirds), we hold another ballot.
  4. Repeat until someone wins.

Cardinal allocation

Nation Cardinals Controller Status
Natopia Natopia 49 Edgard Yes
Nouvelle Alexandrie Nouvelle Alexandrie 28 Edgard Yes
Oportia Oportia 4 Edgard Yes
Curial (NPC) 5 Edgard Yes
Edgard Subtotal 86
Constancia Constancia 7 Primo Yes
Aerla Aerla 4 Leche Yes
Ransenar Ransenar 3 Ardy Yes
Order of the Holy Lakes Order of the Holy Lakes 1 Ric Yes
Lac Glacei Lac Glacei 1 TBD (Orion?) Steady
Zeed Zeed 1 Primo Yes
Sanama Sanama 1 Malliki Yes
Senya Senya 1 TBD (Ric? Barnaby?) Steady
Mercury Mercury 1 Joe Yes
Sanpantul Sanpantul 1 (Curial) Samadam Yes
Others Subtotal 21
TOTAL 107 72 to win

Issues facing the church

The next Archbishop inherits a church at a crossroads. Several unresolved questions will define his tenure.

The Neridian Schism

The Neridian Church split from the autocephalous church in 1654 AN, rejecting the post-imperial reorganization. They believe ecclesiastical authority should remain tied to the Emperor, not an independent Sacred College. After 98 years apart, 25 million Neridians remain in schism. Recent dialogue under Patriarch Gregorius IV has raised hopes for reunion, but reconciliation would require resolving fundamental disagreements about church governance and the role of the House of Carrillo.

  • The question: Should the church prioritize reunification with the Neridians? What concessions, if any, are acceptable?

The Imperial Restoration problem

The Church of the Imperial Restoration teaches that Edgard III is a messianic figure destined to restore the Alexandrian Empire. The autocephalous church has condemned this as heresy. The movement has 25,000-40,000 adherents, mostly working-class Afro-Alexandrians in Natopia. Edgard III has never publicly addressed their claims, though the House of Carrillo has officially distanced itself.

  • The question: How aggressively should the church confront this movement? Can its followers be brought back into orthodox teaching without alienating them entirely?

House of Carrillo relations

The House of Carrillo has historic ties to the church dating to the imperial period. Nouvelle Alexandrie holds formal patronage over the church, while the Holy See of St. Natsanet sits in Geneva, Natopia, where Edgard III serves as Co-Emperor of Western Natopia. This creates tension: NA provides institutional support, but the church's spiritual center is in Natopian territory under Carrillo influence.

  • The question: How close should the church be to the House of Carrillo? Should the Archbishop maintain, strengthen, or loosen these ties?

Liturgical tradition vs. reform

The late Archbishop Boniface VII introduced modest liturgical reforms during his tenure, including expanded use of vernacular languages and simplified ceremonial practices. Conservatives argue these changes dilute Alexandrian Nazarene identity. Progressives want further adaptation to contemporary contexts.

  • The question: Continue Boniface VII's reforms, reverse them, or hold the current line?

Ecumenical dialogue

The church maintains varying relationships with other religious bodies, from cautious engagement with the Dozan Bovic Church to outright condemnation of syncretic movements like the Alexandrian Nazarene Church of the Sun. Some cardinals favor expanded interfaith dialogue; others worry it compromises doctrinal clarity.

  • The question: How open should the church be to ecumenical engagement? Where are the boundaries?

The Holy See's location

The Holy See has been in Geneva since the imperial period. Some argue this is proper, given Geneva's status as the ancient Alexandrian capital. Others note that Nouvelle Alexandrie now holds formal patronage and has the largest concentration of faithful. Moving the Holy See is unlikely, but the symbolic weight of its location shapes church politics.

  • The question: This is mostly settled, but it informs how cardinals view the Natopia vs. NA dynamic in candidate selection.

Cardinal alignments

Cardinals are not monolithic blocs. Based on voting patterns in recent Sacred College deliberations and public statements, Edgard estimates the following ideological distribution for the cardinals he controls:

Nation Total Conservative Undecided Centrist Progressive
Natopia Natopia 49 25 12 8 4
Nouvelle Alexandrie Nouvelle Alexandrie 28 4 7 11 6
Oportia Oportia 4 1 1 2 0
Curial (NPC) 5 1 2 2 0
Edgard Subtotal 86 31 22 23 10
Alignment Cardinals Description
Conservative 31 Favor traditional liturgy, cautious on ecumenism, support strong House of Carrillo ties.
Undecided 22 Have not declared or hold mixed views. Many are pastoral pragmatists focused on institutional stability rather than ideology.
Centrist 23 Balance tradition with adaptation, prioritize church unity, open to reform within limits.
Progressive 10 Support continued liturgical reform, expanded ecumenical dialogue, engagement with contemporary issues.
  • These are estimates for narrative purposes. Actual voting may differ as cardinals respond to changing circumstances during the conclave.

Other nations

The remaining 21 cardinals are controlled by other players. Their ideological alignments are up to them to determine:

Nation Cardinals Controller Alignment
Constancia Constancia 7 Primo Up to Primo
Aerla Aerla 4 Leche Up to Leche
Ransenar Ransenar 3 Ardy Up to Ardy
Hurmu Hurmu 1 Ric Up to Ric
Lac Glacei Lac Glacei 1 TBD TBD
Zeed Zeed 1 Primo Up to Primo
Sanama Sanama 1 Malliki Up to Malliki
Senya Senya 1 TBD TBD
Mercury Mercury 1 Joe Up to Joe
Sanpantul Sanpantul 1 Samadam Up to Samadam

What this means

  • 72 votes needed to win. Edgard controls 86, other players control 21.
  • Cardinals are split. No single alignment commands a majority even within Edgard's bloc.
  • Other players' 21 votes matter. They can tip the balance, back a surprise candidate, or shape the narrative.

Candidates

Candidate Age Position Backed By Platform Controller
Gregorio Aguilar 69 Archbishop of Dos Gardenias Natopia Natopia Traditionalist. Preserve classical liturgy; strengthen House of Carrillo ties; the Holy See belongs in Geneva, Natopia (the ancient capital of Alexandria) where it has always been. Edgard
Philippe de Montreux 67 Chamberlain of the See Nouvelle Alexandrie Nouvelle Alexandrie Moderate. Institutional continuity; church unity; balance tradition with pastoral adaptation; honor NA's patronage role. Edgard
Armin Wagner 76 Archbishop of Petropolis Constancia Constancia Moderate-progressive. Prioritize Neridian reconciliation; the Holy See belongs in Geneva (proximity to Neridian communities aids reunion); pastoral focus over political entanglements; cautious ecumenical engagement. Advocate for everyone to have a care for creation. Wants to call an ecumenical council to advise on resolution of Church issues. Strong believer in Synodality. Champion of Social Nazarenism. Primo
Gwilym Llewellyn 66 Archbishop of Bysdigon Sanama Sanama Progressive. Loosen ties to House of Carrillo; continue liturgical reform; expanded ecumenical dialogue; the Holy See belongs in Geneva. Malliki

How to vote

  1. Edgard will share a Google Form link.
  2. Select your nation.
  3. Allocate your cardinals among the candidates.
  4. Submit. Edgard confirms receipt.

Rules:

  • Vote all for one candidate, or split among several.
  • Total must equal your cardinal count.

Timeline

Event Date (IRL)
Candidate list finalized TBD
Ballot 1 TBD
Results / Ballot 2 if needed TBD
Winner announced TBD

Results

Ballot 1

Candidate Edgard (86) Players (21) Total %
Gregorio Aguilar 32 5 37 34.6%
Armin Wagner 21 10 31 29.0%
Philippe de Montreux 27 2 29 27.1%
Gwilym Llewellyn 6 4 10 9.3%
Total 86 21 107
No candidate reaches 72. The conclave proceeds to Ballot 2.

Commentary

The first ballot reveals a fractured Sacred College. Aguilar's conservative bloc leads but commands barely a third of the vote. Wagner's strong showing, bolstered by Constancian support, positions him as the leading alternative. De Montreux holds the institutional center. Llewellyn's progressive platform attracts a dedicated but small following.

Ballot 2

After the election

  1. Wiki articles updated
  2. News coverage drafted

Great Reconciliation

The election of the new Archbishop sets the stage for the Great Reconciliation, a major storyline that will unfold sometime between 1752 AN and 1755 AN. This is where things get interesting.

For nearly a century, the Neridian Church has been in schism, rejecting the autocephalous constitution of 1652 AN. With 25 million adherents, they represent the largest schismatic body in Alexandrian Nazarene Christianity. Meanwhile, the Church of the Imperial Restoration has been claiming that Edgard III is a messianic figure, which is theologically problematic and personally uncomfortable for Edgard III himself.

The Great Reconciliation resolves both issues in a dramatic convergence of events:

  1. Edgard III issues the Renunciation of St. Luis, formally and permanently renouncing any claim to spiritual authority over the Alexandrian Nazarene faithful. This separates the House of Carrillo from church governance once and for all.
  2. The Neridian Church returns to communion after 98 years of schism, bringing 25 million faithful back into the fold. This is the most significant ecclesiastical reconciliation in Alexandrian Nazarene history.
  3. The Archbishop's title is elevated to Holy Father of the Faithful, Successor of St. Natsanet, and Patriarch Universal. He basically becomes "the Pope" of the Alexandrian Nazarene faith without us blatantly stealing the title.

Who wins this election will shape how (or whether) that story unfolds!

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