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| colspan=" | | colspan="2" style="text-align:center; padding:10px; background-color:#ffffff;" | [[File:Edgard userbox image.png|180px]]<br><small>''Long live [https://hbomaxhacks.fandom.com/wiki/Deborah_Vance Deborah Vance].''</small> | ||
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! colspan="2" style="text-align:center; background-color:#66023c; color:#D4AF37; font-weight:bold;" | Overview | |||
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| style="background-color:#f9f9f9; width:40%;" | '''Name''' | |||
| style="background-color:#ffffff;" | Edgard Carrillo | |||
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| style="background-color:#f9f9f9; width:40%;" | '''Discord Username''' | |||
| style="background-color:#ffffff;" | @eddyplolz | |||
|- | |||
| style="background-color:#f9f9f9;" | '''Pronouns''' | |||
| style="background-color:#ffffff;" | Any<ref>When asked about their gender, he's known to say ''"I hope that you do not think of me as a person, but a collection of thoughts that creates a very angry miasma"''.</ref> | |||
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| style="background-color:#f9f9f9;" | '''Active Since''' | |||
| style="background-color:#ffffff;" | 2002 | |||
|- | |||
| style="background-color:#f9f9f9;" | '''Origin''' | |||
| style="background-color:#ffffff;" | [[wikipedia:Puerto Rico|Puerto Rico]] | |||
|- | |||
| style="background-color:#f9f9f9;" | '''Location''' | |||
| style="background-color:#ffffff;" | [[wikipedia:San Diego|San Diego]], [[wikipedia:California|CA]] | |||
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! colspan="2" style="text-align:center; background-color:#66023c; color:#D4AF37; font-weight:bold;" | Current Roles | |||
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| style="background-color:#f9f9f9;" | '''Admin''' | |||
| style="background-color:#ffffff;" | {{Team flag|Nouvelle Alexandrie}}<br>{{Team flag|Natopia}}<br>{{Team flag|Anglien}} | |||
|- | |||
| style="background-color:#f9f9f9;" | '''[[Micras Cartography Society|MCS]]''' | |||
| style="background-color:#ffffff;" | Cartographer<br>Council Member | |||
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! colspan="2" style="text-align:center; background-color:#66023c; color:#D4AF37; font-weight:bold;" | Recognition | |||
|- | |||
| colspan="2" style="text-align:center; background-color:#ffffff;" | '''18× [[FNORD Awards|FNORD Award]] Winner'''<br><small>2× Odlum Award for Overall Achievement</small> | |||
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! colspan="2" style="text-align:center; background-color:#66023c; color:#D4AF37; font-weight:bold;" | Quick Links | |||
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| colspan="2" style="text-align:center; background-color:#ffffff; padding:8px;" | [[User talk:Edgard|Talk Page]] · [[User:Edgard/Sandbox|Sandbox]]<br>[[User:Edgard/Storylines and To-Do|Storylines & To-Do]]<br>[[User:Edgard/Last Will and Testament|Last Will]]<br>[[User:Edgard/Central Committee of Edgards]]<br>[https://discord.gg/XhNQZhSVK7 Discord] | |||
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| colspan="2" style="text-align:center; background-color:#66023c; border-top:2px solid #D4AF37; padding:5px;" | <span style="color:#D4AF37;">★</span> <span style="color:#ffffff;">''Gramen Numquam Tactum''</span> <span style="color:#D4AF37;">★</span> | |||
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'''Edgard Carrillo''' is a [[wikipedia:Puerto Rico|Puerto Rican]] micronationalist based in San Diego who has been building imaginary countries since before they knew there was a word for it. As a kid, he drew maps, invented governments, and wrote constitutions for nations that existed only in his head; usually with his brother and a couple of cousins that were bored enough to amuse their antics. In 2002, they discovered that ''a lot'' of other people did this too, and that they had forums and chat rooms. He spent many hours at a clunky old computer in a basement in Michigan with his brother doing this. The rest, as they say, is (fictional) history. | |||
What started as a way to avoid boredom became a decades-long series of projects involving thousands of wiki articles, elaborate constitutional frameworks, and the kind of obsessive detail work that would concern a therapist. He regrets nothing... ''yet''. | |||
Their first creation, [[Madland]], was renamed [[Alexandria]] in 2004 after he developed (slightly, ''marginally''...) better taste. [[San Martin]] followed a few years later. When a friend (Lewis) suddenly "retired" (likely found the grass outside more appealing) from the hobby, they inherited [[Hamland]], which eventually descended into civil war and rebranded as {{Team flag|Caputia}} before finally dissolving. He later inherited {{Team flag|Natopia}} and {{Team flag|Oportia}} from their retiring founders as well. They have, by this point, become '''the unofficial retirement home for Micras nations'''. He prefers to think of it as being trusted to keep things alive rather than simply being unable to say no. (Or being at the right place at the right time during someone's ragequit or crashout.) They currently serve as the primary administrator of {{Team flag|Nouvelle Alexandrie}} (which now incorporates {{Team flag|Oportia}} as a subdivision), {{Team flag|Natopia}}, and {{Team flag|Anglien}}, which means he spends an unreasonable amount of time thinking about elections, legislation, and things like, what would be Nouvelle Alexandrie's version of [[wikipedia:Juan Gabriel|Juan Gabriel]]? (It's [[Aurelio Palacios]].) He also spends a lot of time writing fake news for fake countries, which has somehow won him real awards. His character [[Isabella Valentina]], best described as [[Micras]]' answer to [[wikipedia:Wendy Williams|Wendy Williams]], has become the region's most feared gossip columnist. | |||
The hobby, however, proved surprisingly practical. All those years of drafting legislation and debating policy paid off in Model United Nations and Model Congress during high school. And it got them involved in politics locally, which then took him to Washington, DC. Previously a Republican, after having a dose of reality and "growing up" in Washington, D.C., they have matured and aged politically into a pragmatic progressive and ''"bleeding heart fucktard"'' (their words). Apparently, years of running fake democracies gave him unrealistic expectations about how real ones should work. | |||
Edgard also serves as a Cartographer and Council Member of the [[Micras Cartography Society]]. They have received eighteen [[FNORD Awards]] over the years, including the Overall Achievement award in 2015 and 2017, which he suspects means they should probably find other hobbies but, as always... absolutely ''will not''. | |||
== | He has been reliably informed that touching grass is also an option, but has yet to investigate. | ||
{| class="wikitable" | ==Recognition== | ||
! | {| class="wikitable" style="float:left; margin-right:1em; border:1px solid #D4AF37;" | ||
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! style="background-color:#66023c; color:#ffffff; border-bottom:2px solid #D4AF37;" | Year | |||
! style="background-color:#66023c; color:#ffffff; border-bottom:2px solid #D4AF37;" | Award | |||
! style="background-color:#66023c; color:#ffffff; border-bottom:2px solid #D4AF37;" | Category | |||
|- | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | 2025 | |||
| [[FNORD Awards]] | |||
| Journalism<ref>https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?p=108060#p108060</ref> | |||
|- | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | 2025 | |||
| [[FNORD Awards]] | |||
| Leadership<ref>https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?p=108060#p108060</ref> | |||
|- | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | 2024 | |||
| [[FNORD Awards]] | |||
| Journalism<ref>https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11600</ref> | |||
|- | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | 2024 | |||
| [[FNORD Awards]] | |||
| Diplomacy<ref>https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11600</ref> | |||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align: center | | style="text-align:center;" | 2023 | ||
| | | [[FNORD Awards]] | ||
| | | Leadership<ref>https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11466</ref> | ||
|- | |- | ||
| style=" | | style="text-align:center;" | 2023 | ||
| | | [[FNORD Awards]] | ||
| | | Journalism<ref>https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11466</ref> | ||
|- | |- | ||
| style="text-align:center;" | 2022 | |||
| [[FNORD Awards]] | |||
| Journalism <ref>[[FNORD_Awards/2022]]</ref> | |||
| style=" | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| style=" | | style="text-align:center;" | 2020 | ||
| | | [[FNORD Awards]] | ||
| | | Best Revolutionary Concept <small>([[MicrasCast]])</small><ref>https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10536</ref> | ||
|- | |- | ||
| style=" | | style="text-align:center;" | 2019 | ||
| | | [[FNORD Awards]] | ||
| | | Best New Idea <small>([[Alduria]])</small><ref>https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9927</ref> | ||
|- | |- | ||
| style=" | | style="text-align:center;" | 2018 | ||
| | | [[FNORD Awards]] | ||
| | | Journalism <small>(CBC)</small><ref>https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9359</ref> | ||
| style="background-color:# | |- | ||
| | | style="text-align:center;" | 2018 | ||
| | | [[FNORD Awards]] | ||
| Cultural Development <small>(Caputian cinema)</small><ref>https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9359</ref> | |||
|- | |||
| style="text-align:center; background-color:#f5f5dc;" | '''2017''' | |||
| '''[[FNORD Awards]]''' | |||
| '''Odlum Award for Overall Achievement'''<ref>https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8882</ref> | |||
|- | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | 2017 | |||
| [[FNORD Awards]] | |||
| Most Promising New Micronation <small>([[Caputia]])</small><ref>https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8882</ref> | |||
|- | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | 2016 | |||
| [[FNORD Awards]] | |||
| Conflict Resolution<ref>https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?p=90495#p90495</ref> | |||
|- | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | 2016 | |||
| [[FNORD Awards]] | |||
| Leadership<ref>https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?p=90495#p90495</ref> | |||
|- | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | 2016 | |||
| [[FNORD Awards]] | |||
| Journalism <small>(ABC News)</small><ref>https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?p=90495#p90495</ref> | |||
|- | |||
| style="text-align:center; background-color:#f5f5dc;" | '''2015''' | |||
| '''[[FNORD Awards]]''' | |||
| '''Odlum Award for Overall Achievement'''<ref>https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8149</ref> | |||
|- | |||
| style="text-align:center;" | 2006 | |||
| [[FNORD Awards]] | |||
| Conflict Resolution | |||
|} | |||
{{clear}} | |||
==Current Projects== | |||
Edgard currently serves as the primary administrator and owner of: | |||
{| class="wikitable" style="float:left; margin-right:1em; border:1px solid #D4AF37;" | |||
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! style="background-color:#66023c; color:#ffffff;" | Nation | |||
! style="background-color:#66023c; color:#ffffff;" | Notes | |||
|- | |||
| {{Team flag|Nouvelle Alexandrie}} | |||
| Owner since 2020. Main creative project. Incorporated {{team flag|Oportia}} in 2026/{{AN|1756}}. | |||
|- | |- | ||
| {{Team flag|Natopia}} | | {{Team flag|Natopia}} | ||
| | | Inherited 2022. One of the longest-running nations on Micras. | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | {{Team flag|Anglien}} | ||
| Founded 2026/{{AN|1753}}. Latest project, Free Duchy of Anglien. | |||
|} | |||
{{clear}} | |||
| {{Team flag| | === Current citizenships === | ||
| style=" | He also maintains citizenships in {{Team flag|Benacian Union}}, {{Team flag|Constancia}}, and {{team flag|Vegno}}. | ||
==Founded Nations== | |||
:''In order of foundation date. † = closed or dissolved.'' | |||
{| class="wikitable" style="float:left; margin-right:1em; border:1px solid #D4AF37;" | |||
|- | |- | ||
! style="background-color:#66023c; color:#ffffff;" | Nation | |||
| | ! style="background-color:#66023c; color:#ffffff;" | Years | ||
! style="background-color:#66023c; color:#ffffff;" | Notes | |||
|- | |- | ||
| {{Team flag|Alexandria|flag}} [[Madland]]/[[Alexandria]] | |||
| 2002–2017 † | |||
| {{Team flag| | | Founded as [[Madland]], renamed 2004. | ||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| {{team flag|San Martin}} | |||
| 2006–2008 † | |||
| {{ | | Co-founded with Troy Thompson and David Redstone. | ||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| {{team flag|Hamland}} | |||
| ''Inherited'' 2015-2017 † | |||
| {{ | | Inherited upon founder's retirement. Later rebranded as [[Caputia]]. | ||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| {{Team flag|Caputia}} | |||
| 2017–2019 † | |||
| Emerged from [[Hamland]] after civil war. | |||
| {{Team flag| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| {{Team flag|Ransenar}} | |||
| 2019–present | |||
| Now part of {{Team flag|Benacian Union}}. | |||
| {{Team flag| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | {{Team flag|Natopia}} | ||
| ''Inherited'' 2022 | |||
| Inherited upon founder ''(Nathan)'' retirement. | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| {{Team flag|Oportia}} | |||
| ''Inherited'' 2023 | |||
| {{Team flag| | | Inherited upon founder ''(Niko)'' retirement. Now a subdivision of {{Team flag|Nouvelle Alexandrie}}. | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | {{Team flag|Nouvelle Alexandrie}} | ||
| | | 2020–present | ||
| {{Team flag| | | Includes {{Team flag|Wechua}} and {{Team flag|Alduria}}. | ||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| {{Team flag|Anglien}} | |||
| 2026–present | |||
| {{Team flag| | | Free Duchy of Anglien; obtained independence as a new project. | ||
| | |||
| | |||
|} | |} | ||
{{clear}} | |||
==Related Organizations== | |||
:''The tentacles run deep.'' | |||
{{Col-begin}} | {{Col-begin}} | ||
{{Col-4}} | {{Col-4}} | ||
*{{Team flag| | ;Alexandrian & Natopian Legacy | ||
*{{Team flag| | * {{Team flag|Alexandria|flag}} {{Team flag|Natopia|flag}} [[House of Carrillo]] | ||
*{{Team flag|Natopia}} | ** [[House of Carrillo Association]] | ||
*{{Team flag| | ** [[Alexandrian Patriots' Association]] | ||
*{{Team flag| | ** [[Imperial Order of St. Luis]] | ||
*{{Team flag| | * {{Team flag|Nouvelle Alexandrie|flag}} [[House of Inti-Carrillo]] | ||
;Defense & Security | |||
* {{Team flag|Constancia|flag}} {{Team flag|Nouvelle Alexandrie|flag}} {{Team flag|Natopia|flag}} {{Team flag|Raspur Pact|flag}} [[Kerularios & Company]] | |||
* {{Team flag|Constancia|flag}} {{Team flag|Nouvelle Alexandrie|flag}} {{Team flag|Natopia|flag}} {{Team flag|Raspur Pact|flag}} [[Javelin Industries]] | |||
* {{Team flag|Nouvelle Alexandrie|flag}} {{Team flag|Constancia|flag}} {{Team flag|Raspur Pact|flag}} [[Pontecorvo Firm]] | |||
* {{Team flag|Nouvelle Alexandrie|flag}} {{Team flag|Constancia|flag}} {{Team flag|Raspur Pact|flag}} [[Sarbanes-Lopez CyberSecurity]] | |||
* {{Team flag|Natopia|flag}} {{Team flag|Nouvelle Alexandrie|flag}} {{Team flag|Raspur Pact|flag}} [[Neridia Defense Industries]] | |||
{{Col-4}} | {{Col-4}} | ||
;Other Houses | |||
* {{Team flag|Shireroth|flag}} {{Team flag|Natopia|flag}} [[House of Eadric]] | |||
* {{Team flag|Haifa|flag}} {{Team flag|Natopia|flag}} [[House of Meir]] | |||
* {{Team flag|Shireroth|flag}} {{Team flag|Benacian Union|flag}} [[House of Aldric]] | |||
* {{Team flag|Hamland|flag}} {{Team flag|Caputia|flag}} {{Team flag|Constancia|flag}} [[House of Rothborne]] <small>(formerly Ravaillac)</small> | |||
** {{Team flag|Caputia|flag}} {{Team flag|Constancia|flag}} [[Hammish-Caputian Foundation]] | |||
** {{Team flag|Caputia|flag}} [[Hammish Humanitarian Council]] | |||
{{Col-end}} | {{Col-end}} | ||
=== | ==References== | ||
{{reflist}} | |||
{{ | |||
[[Category: Alexandria]] | [[Category:Alexandria]] | ||
[[Category: Caputia]] | [[Category:Nouvelle Alexandrie]] | ||
[[Category: Wechua]] | [[Category:Natopia]] | ||
[[Category: House of Carrillo]] | [[Category:Benacian Union]] | ||
[[Category:Caputia]] | |||
[[Category:Wechua]] | |||
[[Category:House of Carrillo]] | |||
[[Category:Oportia]] | |||
[[Category:San Martin]] | |||
[[Category:House of Inti-Carrillo]] | |||
[[Category:House of Eadric]] | |||
[[Category:Anglien]] | |||
Latest revision as of 20:29, 19 June 2026
| User:Edgard | |
|---|---|
Long live Deborah Vance. | |
| Overview | |
| Name | Edgard Carrillo |
| Discord Username | @eddyplolz |
| Pronouns | Any[1] |
| Active Since | 2002 |
| Origin | Puerto Rico |
| Location | San Diego, CA |
| Current Roles | |
| Admin | |
| MCS | Cartographer Council Member |
| Recognition | |
| 18× FNORD Award Winner 2× Odlum Award for Overall Achievement | |
| Quick Links | |
| Talk Page · Sandbox Storylines & To-Do Last Will User:Edgard/Central Committee of Edgards Discord | |
| ★ Gramen Numquam Tactum ★ | |
Edgard Carrillo is a Puerto Rican micronationalist based in San Diego who has been building imaginary countries since before they knew there was a word for it. As a kid, he drew maps, invented governments, and wrote constitutions for nations that existed only in his head; usually with his brother and a couple of cousins that were bored enough to amuse their antics. In 2002, they discovered that a lot of other people did this too, and that they had forums and chat rooms. He spent many hours at a clunky old computer in a basement in Michigan with his brother doing this. The rest, as they say, is (fictional) history.
What started as a way to avoid boredom became a decades-long series of projects involving thousands of wiki articles, elaborate constitutional frameworks, and the kind of obsessive detail work that would concern a therapist. He regrets nothing... yet.
Their first creation, Madland, was renamed Alexandria in 2004 after he developed (slightly, marginally...) better taste. San Martin followed a few years later. When a friend (Lewis) suddenly "retired" (likely found the grass outside more appealing) from the hobby, they inherited Hamland, which eventually descended into civil war and rebranded as
Caputia before finally dissolving. He later inherited
Natopia and
Oportia from their retiring founders as well. They have, by this point, become the unofficial retirement home for Micras nations. He prefers to think of it as being trusted to keep things alive rather than simply being unable to say no. (Or being at the right place at the right time during someone's ragequit or crashout.) They currently serve as the primary administrator of
Nouvelle Alexandrie (which now incorporates
Oportia as a subdivision),
Natopia, and
Anglien, which means he spends an unreasonable amount of time thinking about elections, legislation, and things like, what would be Nouvelle Alexandrie's version of Juan Gabriel? (It's Aurelio Palacios.) He also spends a lot of time writing fake news for fake countries, which has somehow won him real awards. His character Isabella Valentina, best described as Micras' answer to Wendy Williams, has become the region's most feared gossip columnist.
The hobby, however, proved surprisingly practical. All those years of drafting legislation and debating policy paid off in Model United Nations and Model Congress during high school. And it got them involved in politics locally, which then took him to Washington, DC. Previously a Republican, after having a dose of reality and "growing up" in Washington, D.C., they have matured and aged politically into a pragmatic progressive and "bleeding heart fucktard" (their words). Apparently, years of running fake democracies gave him unrealistic expectations about how real ones should work.
Edgard also serves as a Cartographer and Council Member of the Micras Cartography Society. They have received eighteen FNORD Awards over the years, including the Overall Achievement award in 2015 and 2017, which he suspects means they should probably find other hobbies but, as always... absolutely will not.
He has been reliably informed that touching grass is also an option, but has yet to investigate.
Recognition
| Year | Award | Category |
|---|---|---|
| 2025 | FNORD Awards | Journalism[2] |
| 2025 | FNORD Awards | Leadership[3] |
| 2024 | FNORD Awards | Journalism[4] |
| 2024 | FNORD Awards | Diplomacy[5] |
| 2023 | FNORD Awards | Leadership[6] |
| 2023 | FNORD Awards | Journalism[7] |
| 2022 | FNORD Awards | Journalism [8] |
| 2020 | FNORD Awards | Best Revolutionary Concept (MicrasCast)[9] |
| 2019 | FNORD Awards | Best New Idea (Alduria)[10] |
| 2018 | FNORD Awards | Journalism (CBC)[11] |
| 2018 | FNORD Awards | Cultural Development (Caputian cinema)[12] |
| 2017 | FNORD Awards | Odlum Award for Overall Achievement[13] |
| 2017 | FNORD Awards | Most Promising New Micronation (Caputia)[14] |
| 2016 | FNORD Awards | Conflict Resolution[15] |
| 2016 | FNORD Awards | Leadership[16] |
| 2016 | FNORD Awards | Journalism (ABC News)[17] |
| 2015 | FNORD Awards | Odlum Award for Overall Achievement[18] |
| 2006 | FNORD Awards | Conflict Resolution |
Current Projects
Edgard currently serves as the primary administrator and owner of:
| Nation | Notes |
|---|---|
| Owner since 2020. Main creative project. Incorporated | |
| Inherited 2022. One of the longest-running nations on Micras. | |
| Founded 2026/1753 AN. Latest project, Free Duchy of Anglien. |
Current citizenships
He also maintains citizenships in
Benacian Union,
Constancia, and
Vegno.
Founded Nations
- In order of foundation date. † = closed or dissolved.
| Nation | Years | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| 2002–2017 † | Founded as Madland, renamed 2004. | |
| 2006–2008 † | Co-founded with Troy Thompson and David Redstone. | |
| Inherited 2015-2017 † | Inherited upon founder's retirement. Later rebranded as Caputia. | |
| 2017–2019 † | Emerged from Hamland after civil war. | |
| 2019–present | Now part of | |
| Inherited 2022 | Inherited upon founder (Nathan) retirement. | |
| Inherited 2023 | Inherited upon founder (Niko) retirement. Now a subdivision of | |
| 2020–present | Includes | |
| 2026–present | Free Duchy of Anglien; obtained independence as a new project. |
Related Organizations
- The tentacles run deep.
|
|
References
- ^ When asked about their gender, he's known to say "I hope that you do not think of me as a person, but a collection of thoughts that creates a very angry miasma".
- ^ https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?p=108060#p108060
- ^ https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?p=108060#p108060
- ^ https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11600
- ^ https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11600
- ^ https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11466
- ^ https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11466
- ^ FNORD_Awards/2022
- ^ https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10536
- ^ https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9927
- ^ https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9359
- ^ https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9359
- ^ https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8882
- ^ https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8882
- ^ https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?p=90495#p90495
- ^ https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?p=90495#p90495
- ^ https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?p=90495#p90495
- ^ https://hub.mn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8149