Talk:Hurmu

What this is

• The recent political crisis in Hurmu has shown that the idea I had when I made Hurmu was to govern it through a list of principles (aka Malliki's bullet point treaty) would not be very effective... And as such I hoped it might be a good idea for us to actually write down the constitution, with all your input, and then have it adopted by a referendum by the Order of the Holy Lakes for extra legitimacy. 17:16, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

How to participate

Write your comments with an initial asterisk (*) as appropriate. For replies, add an extra asterisk (**), as appropriate, etc. Sign your comments. Ric will monitor the proposed text. Perhaps we need a Discord thing too? Ric (talk) 17:16, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Text

Preamble

In the words of the ancient echo, of which our ancestors sang as they sat by the lakes of the lands of Hurmu, smiling at life and centring their eyes on peace and tranquillity, we affirm our willingness to save our children and their children for generations to come from the scourges of war and to bring them instead a future of light, hope, and better living.

We hold that all children of Ash and Elm are each other equal and are each of the greatest value immeasurable, and that they all are endowed with indisputable freedoms and rights in accordance with the ways of living of our people.

As such we believe in the Brida, the guide of our people, which we will practise in harmony and solidarity with all nature and her inhabitants, with all peoples and nations, and with all lands and lakes.

In holding that Hurmu is an open society, forming both a community of free people and a sovereign state within the community of nations, we assert the right of every peaceful Brida-respecting child of Ash and Elm to wander among the lush landscapes of Hurmu, and to settle, within the constraints of law, among these lands.

And to these ends, we, the Electors of Hurmu, Knights and Ladies of the Holy Lakes, declare this the constitution for Hurmu:

Comments

• This is the traditional preamble to all previous Hurmu constitutions, save for the very first, and with a slight change of wording at the enactment formula of the constitution, as I think the new constitution would be best served by being adopted in a referendum by all living members of the Order of the Holy Lakes. Ric (talk) 17:16, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

The Order of the Holy Lakes

Proposed structure:

• Definition of the Order
  • Sovereign of Hurmu
  • History, blah blah
  • Symbols
• Membership
  • By right of induction (election or appointment)
  • By right of blood
  • By right of adoption
  • By right of marriage
  • Electors
  • Loss of membership
    • "voluntary"
    • Senate removal
• Hereditary titles
  • Prince/ss among the Lakes
  • King/Queen among the Lakes
• Senate
  • Sovereign of the Order
  • Role in Order matters
    • Regulating role
    • Dispute-solving role
    • Chancellor (and presiding officer, "PM of the Order")
      • Commander (the "vice PM of the Order")
  • Size, etc
  • Election to the Senate
    • When
    • How
    • Who can vote