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* [[Prince Kir]], Viceroy of the [[Two Martyrs]] | * [[Prince Kir]], Viceroy of the [[Two Martyrs]] | ||
* [[Daniyal ibn Daniyal Simrani-Kalirion]], Lord of Szandoh | * [[Kaiseress Rei|Áþamé Issèla Mari Vāstra]], Lady of [[Kin'uyama]] | ||
* [[Daniyal ibn Daniyal Simrani-Kalirion]], Lord of [[Szandoh]] | |||
* [Etc]. | * [Etc]. | ||
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* Lordships to remain constant | * Lordships to remain constant | ||
** Lordships to continue be organized in provinces, one of the lords to be primus inter pares among the other lords in that province | ** Lordships to continue be organized in provinces, one of the lords to be primus inter pares among the other lords in that province | ||
** Lords and rank? – ''Hal | ** Lords and rank? – ''Hal: All lords to be assessed as to their rank, degree of immediacy, type of lordship (civil/military/religious), and other privileges, basically turning us into an antarctic HRE.'' | ||
* A House of Nobles consisting of all lords, with an upper chamber for the provincial lords, – both headed by the prince | * A House of Nobles consisting of all lords, with an upper chamber for the provincial lords, – both headed by the prince | ||
** ''Do we want a democratic chamber too?'' | ** ''Do we want a democratic chamber too?'' ''Hal: Only if the House of Nobles retains primacy.'' | ||
* Prince Kir to be Prince of Kujirashi-Walstadt | * Prince Kir to be Prince of Kujirashi-Walstadt | ||
* Provinces of Asara Eliana (Saxon: ''Eliä-Asaraland''; Sangunese: 恵理愛更国, ''Eriaisarakoku'') to remain under its established name. | * Provinces of Asara Eliana (Saxon: ''Eliä-Asaraland''; Sangunese: 恵理愛更国, ''Eriaisarakoku'') to remain under its established name. | ||
* Island of former Birgeshir to be named ''Otaku'' (お宅, ''O-Taku''; "the honourable home", allusion to the former capital Otaq) and be reserved for safir immigration? 新宅島 Niitakushima, "new home island"? | * Island of former Birgeshir to be named ''Otaku'' (お宅, ''O-Taku''; "the honourable home", allusion to the former capital Otaq) and be reserved for safir immigration? 新宅島 Niitakushima, "new home island"? ''Hal: 新宅島 Shintakushima, with capital named O-Taku.'' | ||
* The Two Martyrs Elijah and Asara to remain revered Saints – with due devotion and respect. | * The Two Martyrs Elijah and Asara to remain revered Saints – with due devotion and respect. | ||
* That the Lordship of Elfinschenheide be despoiled, its buildings burnt, its fields sowed with salt, any Vanakarls found there put to the sword, the lands be divided amongst neighbouring lordships and its absentee lord, [[Hallbjörn Haraldsson]], be attainted. | * That the Lordship of Elfinschenheide be despoiled, its buildings burnt, its fields sowed with salt, any Vanakarls found there put to the sword, the lands be divided amongst neighbouring lordships and its absentee lord, [[Hallbjörn Haraldsson]], be attainted. | ||
** The Lord of Szandoh to cover the cost of the raid and to raise the forces necessary to carry it out. | ** The Lord of Szandoh to cover the cost of the raid and to raise the forces necessary to carry it out. | ||
** ''Hal: Counterproposal: That the Lordship of Elfinschenheide be disestablished, its lands and private property divided amongst neighboring lordships, its lord attainted, and any Vanakarlar/-kvinnur to be given the choice of deprogramming or deportation to the Land Without Kings.'' | |||
[[Category:Two Martyrs]] | [[Category:Two Martyrs]] |
Revision as of 15:45, 14 June 2020
The 1685 Two Martyrs constitutional convention began its meeting at the Palace of Whales in Asara Eliana on 18.VII.1685.
Delegates
- Prince Kir, Viceroy of the Two Martyrs
- Áþamé Issèla Mari Vāstra, Lady of Kin'uyama
- Daniyal ibn Daniyal Simrani-Kalirion, Lord of Szandoh
- [Etc].
Findings
- Two Martyrs to be restored as a principality
- Name in Saxon: Fürstentum Walstadt
- Name in Sangunese: 鯨市公国, Kujirashi kōkoku
- Name in Istvanistani: Principality of Kujirashi-Walstadt
- City of Asara Eliana to be restored to Walstadt-Kujirashi in Istvanistani, Walstadt in Saxon, and 鯨市 (Kujirashi) in Sangunese.
- Lordships to remain constant
- Lordships to continue be organized in provinces, one of the lords to be primus inter pares among the other lords in that province
- Lords and rank? – Hal: All lords to be assessed as to their rank, degree of immediacy, type of lordship (civil/military/religious), and other privileges, basically turning us into an antarctic HRE.
- A House of Nobles consisting of all lords, with an upper chamber for the provincial lords, – both headed by the prince
- Do we want a democratic chamber too? Hal: Only if the House of Nobles retains primacy.
- Prince Kir to be Prince of Kujirashi-Walstadt
- Provinces of Asara Eliana (Saxon: Eliä-Asaraland; Sangunese: 恵理愛更国, Eriaisarakoku) to remain under its established name.
- Island of former Birgeshir to be named Otaku (お宅, O-Taku; "the honourable home", allusion to the former capital Otaq) and be reserved for safir immigration? 新宅島 Niitakushima, "new home island"? Hal: 新宅島 Shintakushima, with capital named O-Taku.
- The Two Martyrs Elijah and Asara to remain revered Saints – with due devotion and respect.
- That the Lordship of Elfinschenheide be despoiled, its buildings burnt, its fields sowed with salt, any Vanakarls found there put to the sword, the lands be divided amongst neighbouring lordships and its absentee lord, Hallbjörn Haraldsson, be attainted.
- The Lord of Szandoh to cover the cost of the raid and to raise the forces necessary to carry it out.
- Hal: Counterproposal: That the Lordship of Elfinschenheide be disestablished, its lands and private property divided amongst neighboring lordships, its lord attainted, and any Vanakarlar/-kvinnur to be given the choice of deprogramming or deportation to the Land Without Kings.