[Beaugium] Removal Request [added to paint map]

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if new-empire shut down another domain would be bought for it, it came close to that before...

when CIS shuts down another domain and forum is made for it...
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IS IT wrote:That 'splinter states' (not true), or rather 'other forums' have been set up is a testament to Lovely, not a criticism of it. If Matbaa closes tommorrow, will its citizens set up over 10 forums to keep the country alive? Will they buy a domain to keep it all together?
No, of course not. Max would do it himself and inform all citizens through email. All actives would migrate and inactives would still get the email for future reference. You see, the wonderful thing about Matbaa is that it has a leader, who is extremely dedicated to Matbaa and its people. Unlike, say for instance, Lovely, who's money-grabbing King is barely even worth mentioning as a member of the nation these days.
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Well said. I don't think there's even any debate as to whether Lovely as a whole should be allowed to keep its MCS land. All it's doing is keeping other, more worthy nations from taking good, high-quality land.

EDIT: Oh, and I've just taken a look at www.lovelycountry.org.
I'm sorry, but one page linking about 8 small micronations together does not constitute a national website. Either all these Lovelies claim land seperately or they don't get any land at all.
Lovely as a unified micronation does not exist anymore
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why don't all the break-off nations claim a part of the lovely land on here.
like the breaking up of the USSR again...

so we'd have 6/7/8 different nations where Lovely is now...
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Your (plural) ignorance doesn't surprise me. None of those forums claim to be indepdent (that I know of), and if you think they are then go to the biggest forum (www.lovelycountry.proboards75.com) which we regard as the main one. I think you'll find that that alone surpasses other nation's forums.
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yes in activity it does congrats.


parrellel lovely claims to doesn't it?
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*washes hands of PL*

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IS IT wrote:That 'splinter states' (not true), or rather 'other forums' have been set up is a testament to Lovely, not a criticism of it. If Matbaa closes tommorrow, will its citizens set up over 10 forums to keep the country alive? Will they buy a domain to keep it all together?
No, of course not. Max would do it himself and inform all citizens through email. All actives would migrate and inactives would still get the email for future reference. You see, the wonderful thing about Matbaa is that it has a leader, who is extremely dedicated to Matbaa and its people. Unlike, say for instance, Lovely, who's money-grabbing King is barely even worth mentioning as a member of the nation these days.
You have missed my analogy. It implies that the leader no longer takes any part in affairs.
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does Parrellel Lovely count as part of lovely or not?
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I'm not sure, we haven't accepted any secssion request so i should imagine that they are.
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Yeah, Activity. The republic of spamalot. So where's all your culture and intermicronational influence, then? Or are all these posts simply venerations of Danny.
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Oh please. Culture etc. differs wildly from nation to nation.
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yes, and the land amount should differ accordingly...
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Yeah, a nation whose national anthem was an iTunes Number One, who had a 6 part national television series made about it, who was featured in a Lonely Planet guide (described as 'the shining star of modern micronations' :P), who has the most active citizens and the most spin-off forums should get a large section, you're right 8)
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that's not culture if it dissolves faster than salt in hot water.
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Yeah, a nation whose national anthem was an iTunes Number One, who had a 6 part national television series made about it, who was featured in a Lonely Planet guide (described as 'the shining star of modern micronations' :P), who has the most active citizens and the most spin-off forums should get a large section, you're right
Has anyone noticed that most of this is in the past tense?
The fact is, Guy, we're not being unreasonable. Lovely had its age of glory, now it doesn't anymore. You should realise that.
If Lovelians can't even accept the blatant fact that removal or at least a reduction is necessary, then they shouldn't have joined the society.
Not everyone can have their cake and eat it and just because Lovely has been on TV and in Lonely Planet, that doesn't change the fact that the rules apply to you too.
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I agree, actually, they should be decreased, not obliterated, decreased, noone in Lovely cares about micronations apart from ISIT and the DCHQers, so theres some of them, so they should be decreased. I shall draw up some maps if you like, later on.
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Babs wrote:I agree, actually, they should be decreased, not obliterated, decreased, noone in Lovely cares about micronations apart from ISIT and the DCHQers, so theres some of them, so they should be decreased. I shall draw up some maps if you like, later on.
For the first in a long time I agree. This is what I think also. Lovely still has a talon latched onto the shoulders of the micronational community, they still deserve some land, just a big reduction.

And I'd also like to see one of these so-called "DCHQers" take over from IS_IT's seemingly self-appointed and unofficial position of guy-that-does-stuff-at-the-MCS, or delegate/representative.
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keiran submitted the original claim... anything from him in lovely?
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Everyone hated Kieran cos he was a knob, so they banished him. Then he returned - and was welcomed - but ran off again after a while.

The previous PM Psychotic Mike (The only person ever to have done good for Lovely whilst in a position of power) appointed ISIT as Minister of Foreign Affairs. The MCS is a Foreign Affair. Ergot=ISIT deals with MCS.
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Mike was cool... i voted mike


and your current PM who is it again?

in fact how many pms have you had?
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It's currently CitizenLove, and we've had three.

I am appointed, Will, please check your facts.

Lovely might consider a reduction to the effect that we have only one island as a placeholder rather then us just leave MCS altogether.
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woo I think you deserve more than that.
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Here's a reduction for ye.
The province of Home seemed the most important, so that's what you've got. I think it's fairly generous considering the state of Lovely at the moment- I hope it is acceptable. You also have some of the best resources and strategic locations militarily in the land you'll retain in this reduction.
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IS IT wrote:I am appointed, Will, please check your facts.

Lovely might consider a reduction to the effect that we have only one island as a placeholder rather then us just leave MCS altogether.
My statement was based on your sub-par diplomatic tact in regards to the MCS. And I don't think Lovely is in a position to "consider a reduction to the effect that we only have one island as a placeholder", it will accept the MCS Administration's ruling or simply leave.

The fact that you continue to slur the MCS (and the GSO, by the way) is why I call for this (ie, you no longer being a delegate to the MCS). Oh, and your general being "a douche".
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