[Beaugium] Removal Request [added to paint map]
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At least Max has the maturity to be constructive.
Max, I will put the issue to the Lovely people at once. Thank you for your map.
Max, I will put the issue to the Lovely people at once. Thank you for your map.
Guido Zambelis
The Rt Hon The Viscount Eden KMNOP
Senior Minister of Foreign Affairs, Kingdom of Lovely
HM King Guy I of the Kingdom of Houland
(Formerly IS IT)
The Rt Hon The Viscount Eden KMNOP
Senior Minister of Foreign Affairs, Kingdom of Lovely
HM King Guy I of the Kingdom of Houland
(Formerly IS IT)
I agree, that looks quite reasonable Max, thanks for that.
Thoughts on Psycotia (near Alexandrian island by Eura) and The Collins Isles (near Oscland/Numenor whatever it is now.)
Thoughts on Psycotia (near Alexandrian island by Eura) and The Collins Isles (near Oscland/Numenor whatever it is now.)
High Prince Babs, Beaugium
KCMNOP, - Kingdom of Lovely
MMNOP, - Kingdom of Lovely
MNOP, - Kingdom of Lovely
SOB, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
POOG, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
HCrC, - Kingdom of Craiteland
H-DOB, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
E-DOB, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
Whitesnake Award, - Kingdom of Durntkinstan
DOB, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
KCMNOP, - Kingdom of Lovely
MMNOP, - Kingdom of Lovely
MNOP, - Kingdom of Lovely
SOB, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
POOG, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
HCrC, - Kingdom of Craiteland
H-DOB, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
E-DOB, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
Whitesnake Award, - Kingdom of Durntkinstan
DOB, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
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Thankyou Guy. And whilst I can see your argument, I do sympathise with Benkern in that every member must follow the rules or leave. I'm being lenient and, I hope, reasonable, but in the long run, if you are asked to leave you must do so. But I think you probably do deserve some land.At least Max has the maturity to be constructive.
Max, I will put the issue to the Lovely people at once. Thank you for your map.
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By the heavenly grace of God, our lord Jesus Christ, mother of God Meryem Ana Mary, the twelve apostles and the saints assembled in eternal glory, His All Holiness Zatriarch Mar Maximillideus Shedounah Idhwharioun I, 103rd Zatriarch of the Holy Orthodox See of the Zatriarchate of Matbaa, prelate of the Matbaic Orthodox Assyrian Jacobite Church of Micras and leader of the faithful of the true micronational faith.
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Zatriarch Maximillideus wrote:Don't think so. However, I will be asking if any other citizens would like to take this role on. Sadly, I don't think they willif you are asked to leave you must do so
Guido Zambelis
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Senior Minister of Foreign Affairs, Kingdom of Lovely
HM King Guy I of the Kingdom of Houland
(Formerly IS IT)
The Rt Hon The Viscount Eden KMNOP
Senior Minister of Foreign Affairs, Kingdom of Lovely
HM King Guy I of the Kingdom of Houland
(Formerly IS IT)
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No, I'm sorry. You're not untouchable. If the MCS votes you off the map, you jolly well leave it. Those are part of the terms and conditions of this society, and as a member of it, you're obliged to follow them.
I've been quite lenient towards Lovely, but you must understand that rules are rules. The Kingdom of Lovely, in the eyes of the administration, is no different to any other Micran nation, no matter how much fame you've had. Is that quite clear?
I've been quite lenient towards Lovely, but you must understand that rules are rules. The Kingdom of Lovely, in the eyes of the administration, is no different to any other Micran nation, no matter how much fame you've had. Is that quite clear?
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By the heavenly grace of God, our lord Jesus Christ, mother of God Meryem Ana Mary, the twelve apostles and the saints assembled in eternal glory, His All Holiness Zatriarch Mar Maximillideus Shedounah Idhwharioun I, 103rd Zatriarch of the Holy Orthodox See of the Zatriarchate of Matbaa, prelate of the Matbaic Orthodox Assyrian Jacobite Church of Micras and leader of the faithful of the true micronational faith.
Yes, I am a theocrat. How very perceptive. You got a problem with that? If not, visit the Zatriarchate of Matbaa at www.zatriarchate.uni.cc
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Thought you meant me personally. My bad.
Don't be silly, if they voted Lovely off then they would just remove it, it's not like we'd be able to do anything
Don't be silly, if they voted Lovely off then they would just remove it, it's not like we'd be able to do anything
Guido Zambelis
The Rt Hon The Viscount Eden KMNOP
Senior Minister of Foreign Affairs, Kingdom of Lovely
HM King Guy I of the Kingdom of Houland
(Formerly IS IT)
The Rt Hon The Viscount Eden KMNOP
Senior Minister of Foreign Affairs, Kingdom of Lovely
HM King Guy I of the Kingdom of Houland
(Formerly IS IT)
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or getting people who can legally buy cigarettes for them, because they're under the legal age...Pete wrote:smoking cigarettes that they can leagally buy in shops!!
talking from past experience...
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PDP? i'm guessing that's like our old PSMD/SE
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Colonel Vilhelm wrote:Ten-four Rubber Duck
I (yes that's me, Craitman) wrote:I'm just so quotable
Colonel Vilhelm wrote:Putting a claim into the MCS Administration Council is like sticking your Arm into a large peice of industrial machinery - it probably won't come out, but if it does, it'll have changed alot from how you remember it.
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it's General Studies now though, as i'm in college
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Colonel Vilhelm wrote:Ten-four Rubber Duck
I (yes that's me, Craitman) wrote:I'm just so quotable
Colonel Vilhelm wrote:Putting a claim into the MCS Administration Council is like sticking your Arm into a large peice of industrial machinery - it probably won't come out, but if it does, it'll have changed alot from how you remember it.
PSE, PSHE in Y9, SD... whatever
(Thats Personal, Social Education. Personal Social Health Education (encorporating Careers) or Student Development.)
(Thats Personal, Social Education. Personal Social Health Education (encorporating Careers) or Student Development.)
High Prince Babs, Beaugium
KCMNOP, - Kingdom of Lovely
MMNOP, - Kingdom of Lovely
MNOP, - Kingdom of Lovely
SOB, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
POOG, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
HCrC, - Kingdom of Craiteland
H-DOB, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
E-DOB, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
Whitesnake Award, - Kingdom of Durntkinstan
DOB, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
KCMNOP, - Kingdom of Lovely
MMNOP, - Kingdom of Lovely
MNOP, - Kingdom of Lovely
SOB, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
POOG, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
HCrC, - Kingdom of Craiteland
H-DOB, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
E-DOB, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
Whitesnake Award, - Kingdom of Durntkinstan
DOB, - Grand Principality of Beaugium
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the "D" in one of ours stood for drugs, but no-one knew what the others meant... not even the teachers
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I (yes that's me, Craitman) wrote:I'm just so quotable
Colonel Vilhelm wrote:Putting a claim into the MCS Administration Council is like sticking your Arm into a large peice of industrial machinery - it probably won't come out, but if it does, it'll have changed alot from how you remember it.
Since I was one of the people who helped bring Lovely into the micronational sphere, and helped with their original MCS application, I'll briefly explain the application and what was running through Kieran's mind when it happened.
1. I talk to Kieran;
2. I suggest MCS membership;
3. I point out that a nice area of green land next to Treithar that some of which could be claimed;
4. Kieran claims whole lot, ignored that I'd had a tacit agreement with Ryan and others to make an eastern expansion some time later - browbeats about the issue;
5. MCS Administration refuses on the grounds that it's just a big blob of orange with nothing marked;
6. Kieran has a rant at me;
7. I suggest subdivisions, capitals, towns, cities etc. based on names used in Lovely, prominent citizens, forums etc.
8. Within a day Kieran has done so.
So in reality there's no real sentimental attachment, just Kieran doing what he had to to better facilitate being an intermicronational power. All attachments, whilst still valid, are subsequent.
1. I talk to Kieran;
2. I suggest MCS membership;
3. I point out that a nice area of green land next to Treithar that some of which could be claimed;
4. Kieran claims whole lot, ignored that I'd had a tacit agreement with Ryan and others to make an eastern expansion some time later - browbeats about the issue;
5. MCS Administration refuses on the grounds that it's just a big blob of orange with nothing marked;
6. Kieran has a rant at me;
7. I suggest subdivisions, capitals, towns, cities etc. based on names used in Lovely, prominent citizens, forums etc.
8. Within a day Kieran has done so.
So in reality there's no real sentimental attachment, just Kieran doing what he had to to better facilitate being an intermicronational power. All attachments, whilst still valid, are subsequent.
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please appreciate that i've missed most of this conversation but why are we talking about removing lovely from the map?
*looks longingly at the piece of land*
*looks longingly at the piece of land*
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Because Lovely as a unified micronation doesn't exist anymore. If it did, why would some of its citizens decide to make Lovely Mark 2 (Houland) and Lovely mark 3 (Beaugium)?please appreciate that i've missed most of this conversation but why are we talking about removing lovely from the map?
Danny doesn't care about it anymore, practically no Lovelians seem to be bothered with general elections or actually simulating a micronation anymore, and the entire place is just in general disarray.
I know Guy will now mention www.lovelycountry.org to me, but I ask him why, if Lovely is unified, it needs so many forums?
Besides, at least a reduction is necessary- there are loads of other nations which could actually do something with that large swathe of MCS land. Be generous!
Oh, and thanks, Ben for your input on this matter. I'm sure 'twill prove very useful.
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By the heavenly grace of God, our lord Jesus Christ, mother of God Meryem Ana Mary, the twelve apostles and the saints assembled in eternal glory, His All Holiness Zatriarch Mar Maximillideus Shedounah Idhwharioun I, 103rd Zatriarch of the Holy Orthodox See of the Zatriarchate of Matbaa, prelate of the Matbaic Orthodox Assyrian Jacobite Church of Micras and leader of the faithful of the true micronational faith.
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Houland might not like being called "Lovely Mark 2"
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His hobbies seem to include glorious charges resulting in death, which I always support.
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thank you max for clearing that up for me
*gazes longingly at lovleys land again*
*gazes longingly at lovleys land again*
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It was meant jokinglyHouland might not like being called "Lovely Mark 2"
But then again, there is a rather strong link between Lovely and Houland. Stronger than a regular alliance, for sure...
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By the heavenly grace of God, our lord Jesus Christ, mother of God Meryem Ana Mary, the twelve apostles and the saints assembled in eternal glory, His All Holiness Zatriarch Mar Maximillideus Shedounah Idhwharioun I, 103rd Zatriarch of the Holy Orthodox See of the Zatriarchate of Matbaa, prelate of the Matbaic Orthodox Assyrian Jacobite Church of Micras and leader of the faithful of the true micronational faith.
Yes, I am a theocrat. How very perceptive. You got a problem with that? If not, visit the Zatriarchate of Matbaa at www.zatriarchate.uni.cc
By the heavenly grace of God, our lord Jesus Christ, mother of God Meryem Ana Mary, the twelve apostles and the saints assembled in eternal glory, His All Holiness Zatriarch Mar Maximillideus Shedounah Idhwharioun I, 103rd Zatriarch of the Holy Orthodox See of the Zatriarchate of Matbaa, prelate of the Matbaic Orthodox Assyrian Jacobite Church of Micras and leader of the faithful of the true micronational faith.
Yes, I am a theocrat. How very perceptive. You got a problem with that? If not, visit the Zatriarchate of Matbaa at www.zatriarchate.uni.cc
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not that you have anything against that Spangle...dr-spangle wrote:it's a double nation
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Colonel Vilhelm wrote:Ten-four Rubber Duck
I (yes that's me, Craitman) wrote:I'm just so quotable
Colonel Vilhelm wrote:Putting a claim into the MCS Administration Council is like sticking your Arm into a large peice of industrial machinery - it probably won't come out, but if it does, it'll have changed alot from how you remember it.
Spangle, aren't you the leader of something like 4 nations.
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His hobbies seem to include glorious charges resulting in death, which I always support.
No he just holds high positions in about 10
By my hand,
His Majesty, Jeremy, Second of the Name, King of New Brittania, Guardian of the Principalities of Greater Ithilien and Greater Dol Amroth, of the Duchies of Forostar, Hyarnustar, Mercia and Andustar, and of the Counties of Lóthshire, Isenshire, Emershire, Rómmenashire, Ondoshire, Oromshire, Kanbishire, Risvertshire, Fullhershire, Hammeranshire, Auishire and Korrianshire, Holder of the Horn of North Witham, Defender of Western Benacia, Keeper of Willow and Winner of The People's FNORD Awards named The Peter Little Award for Excellence in Micronational Literature 2007 and Best New Micronationalist 2007.
His Majesty, Jeremy, Second of the Name, King of New Brittania, Guardian of the Principalities of Greater Ithilien and Greater Dol Amroth, of the Duchies of Forostar, Hyarnustar, Mercia and Andustar, and of the Counties of Lóthshire, Isenshire, Emershire, Rómmenashire, Ondoshire, Oromshire, Kanbishire, Risvertshire, Fullhershire, Hammeranshire, Auishire and Korrianshire, Holder of the Horn of North Witham, Defender of Western Benacia, Keeper of Willow and Winner of The People's FNORD Awards named The Peter Little Award for Excellence in Micronational Literature 2007 and Best New Micronationalist 2007.