CIS de-expansion
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CIS de-expansion
Well you wanted it... i guess you have got it... i think it's quite good, if you moan too much i'm deleting this thread so be warned.
I agree with that, it looks much better with all the cities added too.
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Let me set this out right away: Any reduction is better than nothing, so well done and all that.
Nevertheless, I have to level the following:
1. I think you should rid yourself of the Central Eura Plains. If the CIS starts needing new land in which to fit new memberstates, it can claim said land, I really don't see the merit in keeping the CEP (or, for that matter the old Euran Testicle).
2. CIS Central is also massive, for what it does. If its entire purpose is to house Union City, it really doesn't need to be that large. You see that island to the left of Union City? That's the sort of size you should have, IMHO, for CIS Central. See the Commonwealth Capital Territory that the GC used to have on Micras for a good example of this.
Nonetheless, I think it is very good of you to reduce the CIS' territory, and my congratulations for doing so. I would, however, propose the following instead:
Take as CIS territory the top half of Eura, running down to the thinnest section around Klemmen. Leave the DBO and Gaia as they are. Relocate the New-Empire expansion thing to the west of the DBO. Relocate Krystallos to the section north-west of the DBO, and Jamzinia to the largest section north-east of the DBO and north/north-west of Gaia.
Take the two islands currently west of Union City as the CIS administrative 'central' territory, and do what you want with the large swathe of land that's now free between the DBO, Gaia ad the new border (give it to Jamzinia?).
I made a quick mock-up of my proposal, which is below. You'll notice that the nations themselves barely shrink, even Jamzinia (which appears on your map as rather large ), and I also happen to think that it's more pleasing on the eye, sorry.
I've tried to avoid 'moaning', rather attempting to rely more on constructive critiscism.
Nevertheless, I have to level the following:
1. I think you should rid yourself of the Central Eura Plains. If the CIS starts needing new land in which to fit new memberstates, it can claim said land, I really don't see the merit in keeping the CEP (or, for that matter the old Euran Testicle).
2. CIS Central is also massive, for what it does. If its entire purpose is to house Union City, it really doesn't need to be that large. You see that island to the left of Union City? That's the sort of size you should have, IMHO, for CIS Central. See the Commonwealth Capital Territory that the GC used to have on Micras for a good example of this.
Nonetheless, I think it is very good of you to reduce the CIS' territory, and my congratulations for doing so. I would, however, propose the following instead:
Take as CIS territory the top half of Eura, running down to the thinnest section around Klemmen. Leave the DBO and Gaia as they are. Relocate the New-Empire expansion thing to the west of the DBO. Relocate Krystallos to the section north-west of the DBO, and Jamzinia to the largest section north-east of the DBO and north/north-west of Gaia.
Take the two islands currently west of Union City as the CIS administrative 'central' territory, and do what you want with the large swathe of land that's now free between the DBO, Gaia ad the new border (give it to Jamzinia?).
I made a quick mock-up of my proposal, which is below. You'll notice that the nations themselves barely shrink, even Jamzinia (which appears on your map as rather large ), and I also happen to think that it's more pleasing on the eye, sorry.
I've tried to avoid 'moaning', rather attempting to rely more on constructive critiscism.
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Whilst I must note theat Spangle's threats to delete a thread in the face of criticism are endemic of the current MCS Administration, I agree with Iehova's plan.
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I like Chris's plan, too.
And he is right about the Central Eura Plains- but then again, they're not really plains when you look at the same region on the physical map, are they?
And he is right about the Central Eura Plains- but then again, they're not really plains when you look at the same region on the physical map, are they?
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there are still cities with no names also.
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I like it, now it has the majority of place-names...
but Iehova's idea is much more logical, it was easier to just look at the pic than try to understand what he said
but then again it's up to Spangle how he wants the CIS, unless the vote comes back 'No'...
but Iehova's idea is much more logical, it was easier to just look at the pic than try to understand what he said
but then again it's up to Spangle how he wants the CIS, unless the vote comes back 'No'...
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DBO and Krystallos are dead.
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You mean like i did on msn?
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Thats ure problem though
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In that case i wont bother telling you about spam on the forums or anything else that may prove vital.
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Will DBO and Krystallos now be removed?
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They're dead. What's the point of keeping them on?
And as for Jamzinia... I have no clue. I kind of lost track of all the endless changes to Jamzinia, Gaia, and other CIS nations that I gave up trying to find out about them.
And as for Jamzinia... I have no clue. I kind of lost track of all the endless changes to Jamzinia, Gaia, and other CIS nations that I gave up trying to find out about them.
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They are apparently relatively active.
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Not active enough to warrant that amount of land surely?
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Oh, you're talking about how much land they deserve! Then I suggest you get rid of the CIS entirely temporarily until they can get a claim together that is reasonable.
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jamzinia is hyper-active
they have me(very active you will know) they have gouranga (very active) and azzoria (the master of activity)
Hieu said gaia was alive and he'ld work on it... i said nothing, i simply asked his approval of the map and he added gaia.
New-Empire is gaining activity.
CIS central, very active, i can give you figures.
You will find a technicality in the rules, an expansion can be deemed from a change in activity... nothing about sustaining activity.
they have me(very active you will know) they have gouranga (very active) and azzoria (the master of activity)
Hieu said gaia was alive and he'ld work on it... i said nothing, i simply asked his approval of the map and he added gaia.
New-Empire is gaining activity.
CIS central, very active, i can give you figures.
You will find a technicality in the rules, an expansion can be deemed from a change in activity... nothing about sustaining activity.
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Again, CIS central requires only enough land to house Union City. No more. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that there is neither merit nor purpose in it having any more land than that amount which is required.dr-spangle wrote:
better?
Again again, the retention of the Central Eura Plains is without merit. If the CIS needs land in the future, it can claim it.
Might I enquire as to whether your definition of activity comprises the number of posts made or the value of said posts? Without checking, I must admit, I fear it is the former.
Again again again, I've made a mock up:
I have to add though, that I think Jamzinia looks a little big on this, and you might wish to alter the inter-member borders.
Again, the island to the left of 'your' union city would function as CIS central.
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Also, can you give me the addresses of those forums so I can check their activity?
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The CIS' activity consists of VIVA!VIVA!VIVA! repeatedly
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