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I, as a representative of the Stardock Academy of Magic - located in Tokidoki and led by Duke Magic Matt - would like to ask a question of the Micronations of the MCS:

Which nations amoung you practice the Magical Arts, or have a system for the use of Magic in your nation? We have a fairly well developed Magic branch, and if anyone wants to include Magic in their nation, feel free to use our system and spells. (We use a basic roleplaying Heath Points [hp] and Mana Points [mp] system. The spells can be found at http://z7.invisionfree.com/Tokidoki/ind ... owtopic=53 ).


We're curious to know how the other nations handle these matters. Maybe we could all come to an agreement and create an International Charter of Magic, if we can all agree and get permission from the MCS.
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Cräiteland's whole religion and daily life is based around Pagan magyk.
we even have a witch shop!

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I'm all up for a Micronational magic Group

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You don't need permission from the MCS to create such a charter or organization. Good luck with it. You may be able to petition the Admin Council to grant you a forum.
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I do have to say that it has been a long time since Magic has been seen on Micras in any form. And even then that was back in the Shirerethian Days.

I really would like to see something of that calibre once again here, since it was one of our founding principles as the MCS. That we had a magical planet with various races upon it.

Not just Humans, but Elves, Dwarves, and various other races as well.

I would like to see some of those far off days work come back once again. If you would like to see some of those old nations magic, I would suggest reading up on Old Treesia, and Shireroth from way back in the day.

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any magic steps in my nation you will get destroyed by science.
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any magic steps in my nation you will get destroyed by religion.
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science owns religion.
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Science is magic
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Who says Magic hates science and vice versa? Let me give you an example from Tokidoki:

My research at the Academy includes looking at Magic in a scientific way. It has something to do with bombarding particles with electromagnetic waves that can instantly break down compounds and atoms and reform them into something different. It's till a mystery at how the waves originate. One theory says that it is a long-forgotten capability of the brain. That is why magical capability differs between the Races.

But in any case, Magic and science can work together. :D
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i don't care :D i prefer science :D

and electromagnetism cannot break down atoms, the strong nuclear force overwelms the electromagnetic force.
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Unless you can produce a powerful enough electromagnetic force. :wink:
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which would be much much stronger than the force created by a nutron star, such an electromagnetic force has never been created uin the lab, not even 1 tenth of that...
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If they get magic I get Divine Intervention!
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dr-spangle wrote:which would be much much stronger than the force created by a nutron star, such an electromagnetic force has never been created uin the lab, not even 1 tenth of that...
Which is why magic is so rare these days. It's so hard to artificially create ;)
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and sadly why magic is the only way to explain a lot of stuff...
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Ok, allow me to explain some things.

First to dr-spangle... Bayen explained in a brief form what we are trying to accomplish in Tokidoki. With our new advances in technology and magic, were are about to come out with brand new weapons and armour that fuse technology and magic together. The ammunition, armour, and all machinary are protected and enhanced with magical runes and run on magic.

To Zatriarch Maximillideus, in the real world, I go with what the Holy Catholic Church teaches on magic. here, however, magic is a natural force, like wind or water, that God put on the earth for mankind to use. Magic is part of religion and worship.

And finally, in response to dr-spangle's last post, magic is only explaining a lot of stuff because people are still so gullible to believe it. However, another reason is that forces we cannot see are sometimes taken for magic. An example; a pregnant woman giving birth to a child. This is a force that some claim to be purely scientific, others purely religous. For myself, it is magical, but because the act of bringing new life into the world is given through love. Love is one force that we cannot see whose acts are often described as magical. And until a better word is found to describe those acts, magical is what they shall be. When we see a couple made husband and wife in holy matrimony, it is a "magical moment". When we see a newborn baby, we feel "touched by magic". That "magic" is love, and love working in our lives. We just take for granted nowadays...

And to my young apprentice; Bayen, magic is not so hard to find if you look for it in the simple things in life. A hug, a laugh, a small gift between friends. These are examples of love, my friends, and examples of magic. When a poor man brings home dinner for his family who hasn't eaten all day, although the meal is small, they make merry as though it is a feast. Why? Because of love. Because what they feel makes their world a little brighter. And so it sould be with us. Take pleasure in the little things in life, and be thankful to have so much, even when it is a little.

I thank you.
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though the ages magic or religion have always been put in place when something confuses people like "oh look this thing over here has disappeared, and one exactall the same has appeared here, magic" over the past few years science has taken a stronghold as people reaslise LOGIC now religion is trying to push science, evidence and proof out the way because of some utter b******t (ID theory in america) and people arn't happy that the logic that won them over is too logical and they dislike it.


like global warming, i think this has probably contributed the the ID theory debate, science says we've f****d up the world through wastfullness but religion says "god" will save us all, you're simply hoping some "greater being" will get you out of the s**t that you got yourself into.
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Magic Matt wrote:And to my young apprentice; Bayen, magic is not so hard to find if you look for it in the simple things in life. A hug, a laugh, a small gift between friends. These are examples of love, my friends, and examples of magic. When a poor man brings home dinner for his family who hasn't eaten all day, although the meal is small, they make merry as though it is a feast. Why? Because of love. Because what they feel makes their world a little brighter. And so it sould be with us. Take pleasure in the little things in life, and be thankful to have so much, even when it is a little.
I see I still have a lot to learn, master. ;)
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though the ages magic or religion have always been put in place when something confuses people like "oh look this thing over here has disappeared, and one exactall the same has appeared here, magic" over the past few years science has taken a stronghold as people reaslise LOGIC now religion is trying to push science, evidence and proof out the way because of some utter b******t (ID theory in america) and people arn't happy that the logic that won them over is too logical and they dislike it.


like global warming, i think this has probably contributed the the ID theory debate, science says we've f****d up the world through wastfullness but religion says "god" will save us all, you're simply hoping some "greater being" will get you out of the s**t that you got yourself into.
On Earth, I agree with you. I think everything can be explained with science.

But on Micras, we have a chance to play with our imaginations and see what it would be like if magic was real and we could do the impossible... Why deny us that?
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God will only save you if you allow him into your life. And you must belive and give your life entirely to Him. of course, its all a matter of faith. And of course, here we can do whatever the heck we like! Yippee! :lol: :D
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Post by Bayen »

Let's not bring religion into this, please. It can be a messy topic, if you know what I mean.

My duke - let's see if we can draw up some sort of charter that nations who want to be part of our magical system can all sign.

I'll see if I can get a draft - and you're good at treaties so you can make sure it's all good. Or you can write it. Whatever. :D
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Don't bring religion into it. Matbaa will have something to rant about.
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matbah's only upset because omism own matbaic orthodox
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Actually Katairn Buddism is the one true faith. argue and I will smite you
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pete is immature.
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That is a prime example of my smiting ther. I Smited these fools
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