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The NAM side may also gain the islands. Whoever wins the war, gains control over the islands.
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So the fake peace keepers (who cause more conflict than they solve) can now take the islands where as they couldnt before? How fair it is that larger nations can take things away from smaller countries just because of the feeling of superiority they get from it, why dont you just give the NAM the entire map and save us all a lot of time!?!?! :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
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Beaugium would like to state its disgust at the latest announcement.
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- New Brittania, Kampong and Nova England gain control over the islands at the end of the war
What does that say Vehendi? You should know, you wrote it! It doesnt say "- New Brittania, Kampong and Nova England gain control over the islands at the end of the war unless i change my mind later"
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OOC: You do realise that you were hit by _300_ missiles... the damage you claim to have incurred is hardly proportionate.

OOC: I must admit that I too am surprised that the islands may end up under NAM control, I was under the impression that they would be granted to either NB, NE or KP at the end of the war...

EDIT: Oh, and I dispute the claims that the NAM peacekeepers were 'fake' and that they have caused any conflict at all. Quite the opposite, areas under NAM control have been as peaceful as a day fishing.
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OOC: The NAM areas are only quiet because most countries dont want to risk war with you, but eventually you'll find someone whos going to fight back.
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OOC: says he as he watches his NAM couterpart blast 300 missiles at two carriers for no apparent reason. All in the name of peacekeeping...
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King Joe, where did I say that?

Also, in the all information about the war thread it is written:
The winner(s) of the Taylor Bay RecWar will gain control of the islands in the Taylor Bay. Other nations will get pieces of land elsewhere.
But seeing that there is popular support, only the three main nations may occupy the Warring Islands at the end of the war.

And I do agree that Stormark's way of peacekeeping is a bit different.
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So have you now U-Turned?
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Vehendi wrote:King Joe, where did I say that?

Also, in the all information about the war thread it is written:
The winner(s) of the Taylor Bay RecWar will gain control of the islands in the Taylor Bay. Other nations will get pieces of land elsewhere.
But seeing that there is popular support, only the three main nations may occupy the Warring Islands at the end of the war.

And I do agree that Stormark's way of peacekeeping is a bit different.
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OK, so...who's side am I on again?! lol
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Joe, you're right - I stand corrected.
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Post by Zatriarch Maximillideus »

I don't see anything wrong with our occupation of the islands. If you want to try and expel the NAM forces, you can try. It's all fair.
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NAM occupying the islands creates more problems than it solves. You cant take possession at the end. So what, we have to have another war for them?!?
And then, if you occupy them, its a stale mate, we cant attack you because a) Your supposed to be neutral etc etc and b)It'd create a little miniwar
So if NAM occupy the islands, then theres no actual point to this, because you cant keep them, so the three have to have some sort of agreement or whatever, and we'll just go in circles.
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Aah, but we can take possession of them- see the map thread.
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That's only temporarily.
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once the war is over you cant keep them though, so whats the point.
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This is simply a nice military adventure for the Matbaics, I presume. :)
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Yeah, NAM doesn't constitute the main adversaries in this war, therefore cannot obtain the promised islands. 'Twould be nice, though.
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Post by Guido Zambelis »

chrimigules wrote:NAM doesn't constitute the main adversaries
That's one way of looking at it.
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This is simply a nice military adventure for the Matbaics, I presume
Spot on, Harald :wink:
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Post by Graius »

Interestingly (and I'm sticking my head in because I've been reading a book on peacekeeping this week) a force can only be called "peacekeepers" when both sides consent to their use as such. When such a force takes sides and attacks another not in self-defence or in the prevention of the halting of a ceasefire, then it is no longer peacekeeping. A peacekeeping force exists to uphold a state of ceasefire (de facto or de jure) between two or more forces. Anything outside that remit cannot be called peacekeeping, and to claim otherwise is posturing.
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Thank you Graius :D
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Post by Lyam conDoin »

I would say that by the end of the war, if NAM is in possesion of the islands, they remain unclaimed territory and stay that way for a decided-upon length of time (say, one year?).
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Post by Braden Indianensis »

This is idiotic. I think if the main belligerent parties don't have the requisite military capabilities to secure the islands, the NAM should.
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