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here is everything i can find:



THE STAR
the star Micras orbits is called Atos




PLANETS
the planets are named as so:
1. Eos (Dawn)
2. Micras
3. Pyros (Fire)
4. Indigo
5. Chrysos (Gold)
6. Thalassa (Ocean)
7. Nephele (Cloud)
8. Glinos (Maple)
9. Noctis (Night)
10. Opisthe (Hindmost)
The planet types are like so:
Gas Giant- J
Temperat(earthlike)- M
Frozen(pluto like)- D
Double PLanet- W
Venus like- V
Mars like- A

1. V
2. M
3. A
4. W/M
5. J
6. J
7. J
8. M
9. D
10. D
back in 2004 bill made a map of Momiji, which then changed it's name to Glinos:
http://www.geocities.com/microcartography/momiji.html
it was even put as a spinning globe:
http://www.shireroth.org/Stuff/momiji-anim.swf

some info on the planets:

1. Eos
Venus like in quality. A straight telescope appearance show show that it would be tan in colour with dark bands from wind storms. Of course, beneath the clouds is a super heated surface due to the greenhouse effect. www.astro.lsa.umich.edu/s.../venus.jpg

2. Micras
While we know what Micras looks like from the extensive maps, what about Mercia? Our Moon, created by some theories of a planetoid colliding with the Earth, is normally dark black and grey. www.pa.msu.edu/people/fre...y-2831.jpg

3. Pyros
Mars like in appearance. Once possessing an atmosphere which many theorise that it leaked out into space. It still possess a very thin atmosphere. It still possess polar ice caps that do melt to a point. The distances in our system makes Pyros extremely cold, but in this system, perhaps it would be warmer?
www.astro.uva.nl/exhibiti.../mars.jpeg

4. Indigo
More information is needed about both of these planets. Their rotation could have effects upon other planet's gravities as they swing through the system. If the magnetic field is created in time, an strong atmosphere might survive, but this position in the system would make the surface very cold. Even the neighbouring Gas Giant would have to be very close to provide any heat.

5. Chrysos
The first of several gas giant. We should consider the strength of the storms that will be rumbling around the surface. Will they be dull like Saturn's or multi-coloured like Jupiter's? Plus, don't forget about the blue surface of Neptune. A gas giant usually have more moons than just two. Perhaps Fenrir and Lukedu are the most visible and promient and more can be discovered. Also, there is potential that a large gas giant my cause adverse effects to Indigo, including its destruction.

info on Micras:
Physical Properties of Micras
Radius of Micras: 6.3782×10^6 m

Circumferance of Micras: 4.0075×10^7 m (Earth: 4.0075×10^7 m equatorial, 4.0008×10^7 m polar)

Volume of Micras: 1.0869×10^21 m^3 (Earth: 1.0832×10^12 m^3)

Assuming that the average density of Micras is equal to Earth (5515 kg/m^3)

Mass of Micras: 6.0114×10^24 kg (Earth: 5.9736×10^24 kg)

Acceleration due to Gravity at Sea Level: 9.8600 m/s^2 (Earth: 9.7800 m/s^2 at Equator, 9.8067 m/s^2 average)





MOONS
The moons that we know about are:

Micras: Tarsica
Indigo: Plateau, Ivory
Chrysos: Fenrir, Lukedu


There is also an old page on the definition of Tarsica with explanations of the wildlife there:
http://www.geocities.com/microcartograp ... cadef.html





THE REST OF THE UNIVERSE
some star maps were being drawn by fax celestis, he made 6, the official one was not decided, here they are:
http://images.shireroth.org/temp/Trial1.png
http://images.shireroth.org/temp/Trial2.png
http://images.shireroth.org/temp/Trial3.png
http://images.shireroth.org/temp/Trial4.png
http://images.shireroth.org/temp/Trial5.png
http://images.shireroth.org/temp/Trial6.png
and remember we need 2, one for north and one for south :D

for the galaxy there is a choise of several options:
Elliptical
Lenticular
Spiral
Barred Spiral
Ring galaxy
Irregular
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excellent job Spangle, And as you said its time to get some work done on this.
1)are we keeping the planet's names?
2)are we keeping the planet types?
3)what galaxy type is Micras in?



things we need doing:
1)make starmap(i can do this )
2)write some info on planets 6-10 (i could do that too )
3)more moons for the other planets, there are currently 5 moons in the entire star system

As for the things we need to decide upon, I believe that ten planets it more then enough, however it may not be a bad idea to possible increase the effects of the Solar System itself. We currently have a solar system. but nothing else, We have a list of planets from the old days, but nothing more. I believe that we should attempt to include two more things into the system, Possible an asteroid belt (maybe two). We may also consider the creation of an Oort Cloud and its dimensions. The last thing I believe that we should add as well, should be several comets that visit the Atos system every so often. Kind of like the Haley's Comet of the Solar system.

now let us begin answering some of these questions:
1)are we keeping the planet's names?
The Names as come up by Bill3000 and the rest of the astronomors from back in the day, are rather impressive and I like the way they sound. The one thing that we could use more of is expanding of the explanations for the rest of the planets.
2)are we keeping the planet types?
the vast majority altogether fit rather well and make good sense, however the one blemish would be Glinos, which is much too far out in the system to be a habitable planet. The Habitable zone in the system has already proven to be around Micras. Glinos, by this deffinition should only be an ice-ball, nothing like an ocean covered land not unlike Micras.

This is what I believe that we should deal with first, as well as the addition and naming of moons to go with the rest of the system. You are right spangle, there are far too few moons for this system to have any logical setup about it. We should also discuss the addition of Shepard moons for those planets that have rings. Since they are required for such a thing to come about on its own.
3)what galaxy type is Micras in?
This question is broad enough that I would reccomend that we simply keep it out of the question for a minute. Since you are going to be building the night sky, this could have an effect on its setup, however I doubt that we are'nt going to use the ones you have already provided. Beacause of this I believe that since none of them are setup so that they reflect a different galaxy type, that we simply don't worry about it.

however if we do go about it, then I would suggest this kind of galaxy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar-ring_galaxy

if not, then I would suggest the Barred Spiral.

Now for the things we have to do:
1)make starmap(i can do this )
I believe that we could even hold this open as a vote for MCS members, since we are'nt going to go about the process of naming these stars, at least I hope not. We should just leave it open to other nations so that they may name them whatever they wish.
2)write some info on planets 6-10 (i could do that too )
I completely agree, And I will vollunteer to write up the infor for these planets, I myself used to be a fluff writer (Scenario writer) and have some expierience in explaining the terrain, climate and history behind each planet we do. Not to meantion that I want to contribute something else, besides my giant posts :P
3)more moons for the other planets, there are currently 5 moons in the entire star system
and this has been covered, We just need to deal with the moons at the same time that we deal with the effects of the Atos system (Comets, asteroid belts, asteroid sectors, comets, and various other things.

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yes name them but it would be good if we had a set image of the night sky... :D
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feel free to post more then a sentence Spangle, since this kind of work demands it ;)

and we will have a set image of the night sky, if we could make it scroll however so that you could see the night sky at many angles, that would be impessive.

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how do you mean scroll?

do you mean something like putting it into a 3d programme or just making it move up and down and left and right and spin? :D


and do you want a realistic look or more sprited? :D
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I mean to see the night sky at night, I'm sure you have seen the fast clips of the night sky where you can see the stars actually moving. It would be something like that, except in this case we could see the entirety of the night sky, since during the day the Sun hide part of it, and we can't see it until half a year later.

In other words as if you went outside and waitied all night, looking up at the stars and watched them go by.

I think that we should go for reality rather then a Sprited look, although it is not a bad thing, we are'nt spriting around here. ;) Let us go with the real look.

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okey dokey :D
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Feel free to keep discussing this Spangle, we need to begin discussion about other planets.

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ok, what are the 6th+ planets like? any ideas
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Why don't you write down any of your ideas, spangle?
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i think i've done all my ideas :? my imagination died sorta, it lives during school... hmmm... i'll have to print this off...
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*Edit* Actually on second thought, I will create a new thread for this work, since it deviates from the point of this thread enough.

The New Atos System:

look there for the new stuff. :wink:

however, discussion needs to continue here as well, primarily in the areas of Mathmatics, and work on the Star charts for the immediate Galaxy around Atos. And hopefully the comming up of names for everything. We need plenty of names, and public contribution would'nt hurt. :)

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