Republic of Gaia [modification]

Hieu · Post by **Hieu** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:56 am

dr-spangle wrote:the way i see it is this:

1)you are the gaia we know and you are bound by said treaty
2)you are not this gaia and that was not your land.

3) we restarted as the Republic of Gaia and joined the CIS when you took over

Post by **dr-spangle** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:01 am

but the land says:

"Gaia"

the treaty says:

"Gaia"

same thing so it's both or none

Post by **Craitman** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:02 am

dr-spangle wrote:but the land says:

"Gaia"

the treaty says:

"Gaia"

same thing so it's both or none

it's like the Republic of Congo, and the Democratic Republic of Congo. same initial name, different nations...

Post by **dr-spangle** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:03 am

yes but two things saying democratic republic of congo would be referring to the same thing...

Hieu · Post by **Hieu** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:06 am

dr-spangle wrote:yes but two things saying democratic republic of congo would be referring to the same thing...

People's Republic of China and Republic of China = Two Things with the same name, two existing governments, both completely different.

Post by **Craitman** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:07 am

dr-spangle wrote:yes but two things saying democratic republic of congo would be referring to the same thing...

yes, but these refer to the Kingdom of Gaia, and the Republic of Gaia, not both to the Republic...

ps. the China example would have been my second example...

Post by **dr-spangle** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:08 am

they both say the same thing and both refer to the same thing...

Post by **Craitman** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:09 am

dr-spangle wrote:they both say the same thing and both refer to the same thing...

they don't though. different names; different things...

Hieu · Post by **Hieu** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:10 am

dr-spangle wrote:but the land says:

"Gaia"

the treaty says:

"Gaia"

same thing so it's both or none

But they are two different gaias:

The Land is Gaia, Republic of

The Treaty is Gaia, Independant Micronation of

Post by **dr-spangle** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:13 am

let's look on the map..

it says "Gaia"

look on the treaty it says: "Gaia"
same.

Post by **Craitman** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:19 am

one word can have many meanings...

Iehova · Post by **Iehova** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:20 am

dr-spangle wrote:let's look on the map..

it says "Gaia"

look on the treaty it says: "Gaia"
same.

That doesn't make sense, if I started a micronation called the United States of Gaia it wouldn't be bound by that treaty.

kingjames · Post by **kingjames** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:24 am

Iehova wrote:
dr-spangle wrote:let's look on the map..

it says "Gaia"

look on the treaty it says: "Gaia"
same.
That doesn't make sense, if I started a micronation called the United States of Gaia it wouldn't be bound by that treaty.

He's not saying that. He meant the "Gaia" on the map is named "Gaia", it is part of the CIS. The CIS has a treaty refering to the Micronation of Gaia. It's no co-incidence.

Post by **dr-spangle** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:24 am

no but the nation on the map is bound by the treaty.

Post by **Craitman** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:25 am

dr-spangle wrote:no but the nation on the map is bound by the treaty.

even though it is not labelled the same as the nation mentioned in the treaty itself?

kingjames · Post by **kingjames** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:28 am

Craitman wrote:
dr-spangle wrote:no but the nation on the map is bound by the treaty.
even though it is not labelled the same as the nation mentioned in the treaty itself?

It is though.

Hieu · Post by **Hieu** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:28 am

Iehova wrote:
dr-spangle wrote:let's look on the map..

it says "Gaia"

look on the treaty it says: "Gaia"
same.
That doesn't make sense, if I started a micronation called the United States of Gaia it wouldn't be bound by that treaty.

^^ Bump.

Republic of Gaia, Independant of Gaia, 2 different governments but branching out from the same thing. It's two different nations, but with the same culture, language etc. REPUBLIC of Gaia not in the treaty!

Iehova · Post by **Iehova** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:29 am

Was Gaia taken off the map at any time after it was declared to be dead?

Post by **Craitman** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:33 am

Iehova wrote:Was Gaia taken off the map at any time after it was declared to be dead?

I don't think it was, which means the CIS broke the treaty...

kingjames · Post by **kingjames** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:34 am

Craitman wrote:
Iehova wrote:Was Gaia taken off the map at any time after it was declared to be dead?
I don't think it was, which means the CIS breached the treaty...

How would that be in breach of the treaty? (and I'm looking into whether it was.)

And for the final time, on the map, the "gaia" within the CIS has no prefix of "Republic of".

Post by **Craitman** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:36 am

kingjames wrote:
Craitman wrote:
Iehova wrote:Was Gaia taken off the map at any time after it was declared to be dead?
I don't think it was, which means the CIS breached the treaty...
How would that be in breach of the treaty? (and I'm looking into whether it was.)

And for the final time, on the map, the "gaia" within the CIS has no prefix of "Republic of".

Because the land should not be "Gaia's" if they leave/die.

Because they nation changed into the Republic, hence them wanting to be removed...

Post by **dr-spangle** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:38 am

they were already the republic and if it was the republic of gaia it would be marked that way on the map... or any of the forums...

Hieu · Post by **Hieu** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:41 am

dr-spangle wrote:they were already the republic and if it was the republic of gaia it would be marked that way on the map... or any of the forums...

Hold on.

The map also states Jamzinia as Jamzinia, not the Kingdom of Jamzinia, which James is titled as King.

So, you're talking against yourself really.

kingjames · Post by **kingjames** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:41 am

Craitman wrote:
kingjames wrote:
Craitman wrote: I don't think it was, which means the CIS breached the treaty...
How would that be in breach of the treaty? (and I'm looking into whether it was.)

And for the final time, on the map, the "gaia" within the CIS has no prefix of "Republic of".
Because the land should not be "Gaia's" if they leave/die.

Who said they were dead? They had an original forum that is no longer in use, but that doesn't mean they are dead. And quite frankly you have no rights to declare nations dead no matter how much activity they are recieving. Land is given to CIS as a whole for CIS admin to share out.

Because they nation changed into the Republic, hence them wanting to be removed...

If that's the case, then this is a different Gaia to the one on the lands of the CIS, and therefore these lands have nothing to do with "The republic of Gaia".

Post by **Craitman** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:41 am

dr-spangle wrote:they were already the republic and if it was the republic of gaia it would be marked that way on the map... or any of the forums...

they were the Kingdom before. and if they are the Republic,as you say, why are they not marked that on the map - like you said they should be...