Sponsorship

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AmbassadorJames

Re: Sponsorship

Post by AmbassadorJames »

As a new micronation we are not in a position to apply for membership to the MCS. However, we may have aspirations to do so in the future.<br>
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Diplomatic exchanges and relationships are surely an essential element of micronationalism. Therefore sponsorship would appear to be a logical path to follow, given that bugs are increasingly a problem.<br>
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However, by applying a further tier of qualification, there is a danger of creating an elitist (or rather increasing the already inherent elitism) of membership of the MCS, thereby weakening the hobby in this sector.<br>
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We would have no problem complying with the extension of the qualifying period to 12 months, during which time diplomatic developments would establish the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>bona fides</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> and intent of the nation. It would be a poor nation that did not establish some rapour with others over a year!<br>
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Then, as the King of Gotzborg says:<br>
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Just as long as the criteria is clearly and equitably applied.<br>
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graius

Re: Sponsorship

Post by graius »

Although I shudder to say it, the MCS is run by intelligent people. They're able to know the difference between a good and a bug nation. Formal rules are only going to make things more difficult. Let's just give them more discretionary powers and allow for a process of appeal or re-application, rather than adding more bureaucracy.

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Emperador Augustin

Re: Sponsorship

Post by Emperador Augustin »

I did work out a draft today.<br>
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<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Sponsorship Program</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>
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Due to the increasing number of one-man micronations and the inability to conduct proper checks on their claimed populations, the MCS will support the implementation of a sponsorship program. This undertaking will seek to utilise longtime active members of the MCS in order to support the entry of newer and younger micronations into the society. The objective of this being that longtime members have a more reliable voice and can, thusly, put their own reputation on the line in support of a micronation without any history. Somewhat akin to what one does when they require a cosignor due to not having a credit history.<br>
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The program would work like so:<br>
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Sponsorship<br>
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1. A sponsor is defined as any MCS member which has maintained a constant membership of one year or more in the society.<br>
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2. Sponsorship of a potential new entrant to the society may be undertaken by any member meeting the time requisites as listed in article one.<br>
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3. A new member applying for entrance is REQUIRED to note their sponsor(s) in their initial application for membership. This does not apply if the sponsor is obtained at a later date, as circumstances may require.<br>
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4. The MCS reserves the right to reject a claim regardless of the number of sponsor(s) the applicant may have.<br>
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5. An applicant nation may obtain one, two or three sponsors, but no more than this.<br>
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6. The number of sponsors in support of an applicant does not increase the chances of approval for entrance to the society.<br>
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7. The role of a sponsor is to support, with facts and other pertinent information, the legitimacy of an applicant. The more sponsors, the more said information will be considered accurate.<br>
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8. Sponsors may support as many applicants as desired and there is no limit on this. Over-sponsorship will, obviously, be frowned upon.<br>
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9. An applicant is not required to obtain a sponsor in order to gain membership in the MCS. Although it certainly helps, it is not a demanded requisite.

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shadowbladeprime

Re: Sponsorship

Post by shadowbladeprime »

i argree to all the above terms

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KieranCollins

Re: Sponsorship

Post by KieranCollins »

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>1. A sponsor is defined as any MCS member which has maintained a constant membership of one year or more in the society.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
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I Agree<br>
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<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>2. Sponsorship of a potential new entrant to the society may be undertaken by any member meeting the time requisites as listed in article one.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
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I Agree in principle, however I thought the point of sponsorship was for a respected Nation to place their support. Would this not, in turn, imply that Nations not 12 months old are deemed not respected? and, does this mean that the Nation does not have to be respected, it merley has to be older than 12 months old?<br>
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<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>3. A new member applying for entrance is REQUIRED to note their sponsor(s) in their initial application for membership. This does not apply if the sponsor is obtained at a later date, as circumstances may require.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
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I Agree<br>
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<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>4. The MCS reserves the right to reject a claim regardless of the number of sponsor(s) the applicant may have.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
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I fail to understand the whole point in this process then and would ask you what the point is? Surely if you impliment this into a form of application, and the restrictions upon who can sponsor, then you would have no reason to reject the claim. It appears on the face of it, that you would not trust the sponsor Nation.<br>
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<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>5. An applicant nation may obtain one, two or three sponsors, but no more than this.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
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I thought that one of the outcomes of this was that it would increase activity and develop good relationships. I can't see where the MCS should hold limits upon the amount of sponsors a Nation gets, surley that is a choice for the individual Nation States involved to decide?<br>
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<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>6. The number of sponsors in support of an applicant does not increase the chances of approval for entrance to the society.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
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So why have more than one then? surley if you tell them they can have 1,2 or 3 there must be a point to it?<br>
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<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>7. The role of a sponsor is to support, with facts and other pertinent information, the legitimacy of an applicant. The more sponsors, the more said information will be considered accurate.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
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That doesn't bode well with me. I am starting to get the feeling that you have distrust for the older Micronations. Why is the word of three better than two? Why is the word of 3 better than 4, seeing as there would be a limit of 3 sponsors?<br>
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<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>8. Sponsors may support as many applicants as desired and there is no limit on this. Over-sponsorship will, obviously, be frowned upon.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
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Why would it be frowned upon? this is something out of Victorian England is it not? have the societies of the world not moved on from frowning?<br>
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<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>9. An applicant is not required to obtain a sponsor in order to gain membership in the MCS. Although it certainly helps, it is not a demanded requisite.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
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Does that not contradict part 6?<br>
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Kieran Collins, OED<br>
Minister of Foreign Affairs<br>
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<p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmicronationaln ... Collins</A> at: 9/12/05 9:28<br></i>
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