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James A Grieve

Grid references.

Post by James A Grieve »

Out of interest, has anybody ever broached the topic of grid references? Lat/long and all that? It seems to me that it'd be fairly simple to set up a couple of rulers (in effect) along orthagonal edges of the Micras map, and do simple cartesian coordinates.<br>
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Just wondering...

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ejen ranti taicardainre

Re: Grid references.

Post by ejen ranti taicardainre »

The GC did something sort of like that, except it was time zones. Since time zones follow the latitude (or is it long) anyways, these lines could sort of be used.

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James A Grieve

Re: Grid references.

Post by James A Grieve »

Longitude, I believe. I did a bit of reading on the topic of Poincare and the longditude mapping process a while ago -- it was pretty crazy stuff.<br>
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On a side note, I'm vaguely considering creating a post-code system for Talamthom's home maps. Purely so I can do a multimap-style script that allows you to type in one of these 'codes' and see a little red circle on the map.<br>
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Regards,

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Thomas O Ceallaigh

Re: Grid references.

Post by Thomas O Ceallaigh »

Hmm. You little obsessive!!

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extreme007

Re: Grid references.

Post by extreme007 »

Here's the one we used....<br>
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lachan has the bigger version.

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ejen ranti taicardainre

Re: Grid references.

Post by ejen ranti taicardainre »

Yup, we also have a nice little distances one too (largeish image!)<br>
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James A Grieve

Re: Grid references.

Post by James A Grieve »

Interesting stuff... hmm.<br>
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What's the official MCS stance on grid references? (I take it this hasn't come up before, then?)

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UEC

Re: Grid references.

Post by UEC »

THere is on somewhere.. I made it in ages past when I still ran things... So.. it does exsist.... but I have no idea where it got off too. it was just a simple system with 0 at the lower left corner going out to 360 at the far right (though going up it proly didn't reach 360.

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Emperador Augustin

Re: Grid references.

Post by Emperador Augustin »

The official MCS stance is that none of these user-made maps are official and we do not oblige people to not make their own custom maps for private use within their own nations.<br>
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As for grid lines, we will not be adding any to the main map anytime soon. If someone wishes to add them to the physical map, then by all means feel free to do so. Editing around those lines at the frequency in which the MCS has to make changes simply makes placing them on the political map unfeasible.

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extreme007

Re: Grid references.

Post by extreme007 »

warvoid.. you use Paint right? i thought you said that... well anyways, i would recommend you to make a map with white background and just about every thing white.. except the continental boundaries and such...add to this the grid lines.. after that, you could easily copy the entire map, and paste it on the political map, just before update... thats it.. <br>
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or you could as always ignore me and curse karnali instead..

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James A Grieve

Re: Grid references.

Post by James A Grieve »

Hmm, I appreciate that grid-lines could complicate matters, if you were going to be doing a great deal of editing. However, it should be possible (as extreme007 suggests) to create a grid system either on a seperate layer to the political bit, or (if you really are using a primative graphics application) in a seperate document, and then paste accross before the final save.<br>
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I'm only keeping on about this because it feels very odd to describe Talamthom's new location as "a bit to the left of Stormark's homeland" -- the geographical location of a sovereign nation should not have to be defined relative to other nations. It just doesn't rub right. ;-)

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Emperador Augustin

Re: Grid references.

Post by Emperador Augustin »

If grid lines were added, i'd do it on a black and white simple version of the physical map, topography removed, and grid lines added with the appropriate degree notations. It'd be a seperate map, as i'm not about to add lines to the political map.

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extreme007

Re: Grid references.

Post by extreme007 »

warvoid... why not just copy paste it over the political map just before saving/uploading it?

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Emperador Augustin

Re: Grid references.

Post by Emperador Augustin »

Because it doesn't work on my computer for some odd reason and because it would increase the file size of the gif considerably when i'm already stretched for space. A simple black and white projection is more simple and smaller.<br>
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Unless, of course, you want to buy me a dot-com with a server.

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extreme007

Re: Grid references.

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wierd... really wierd.... cause i was able to merge the resources map with the political map easily... (i whitened out all the green parts of the resource map)...

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Layal1

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Post by Layal1 »

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James A Grieve

Re: Grid references.

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How about just adding a 'ruler' style thing around the borders of the map? It could be say 10 pixels deep, and deliminate much as the rulers do in Photoshop/Paintshop/Illustrator/Most graphics software? It would be potentially a bit less accurate, but it would still facilitate grid referencing...<br>
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And if you used, say, black (a color which your GIF already has indexed), it shouldn't increase the filesize at all.

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Emperador Augustin

Re: Grid references.

Post by Emperador Augustin »

I'll consider it, though i'm not making any promises. Such an addition probably won't happen until I get some vacation time, which won't be until later in the year.

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Bill3000

Re: Grid references.

Post by Bill3000 »

You could always get someone to do it. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :P --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":P"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->

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