Official Representation

View and discuss existing rules, new rules, policies, and regulations of the MCS.
Locked
Emperador Augustin

Official Representation

Post by Emperador Augustin »

Due to the fact that, in several recent cases, I have encountered upsets because citizens of various members have come to me requesting changes that were not sanctioned by their respective governments, I have been forced to review the ways we conduct official representation. By this I mean that I wish to see a plan, outlined below, in which all members conduct through their own methods a way of selecting one or two citizens to act as an official representative to the MCS. The rep (or reps) will be the only persons recognised by the MCS to submit changes to their respective nation's map.<br>
<br>
Representation will begin anew from scratch, virtually wiping the plate clean of the present system where pretty much anyone can rep their home country. Following this step, the rules below would take effect.<br>
<br>
Representation to the MCS<br>
<br>
1. Members are obligated to provide either one or two (at their discretion) representatives to the MCS.<br>
<br>
2. Representatives are chosen by whatever means their home nation chooses (i.e. election, decree, etc.).<br>
<br>
3. New applicants must pick their reps BEFORE applying for MCS membership.<br>
<br>
4. Representatives will be the ONLY communication considered to be official between a member country and the MCS. All other communication will be considered unofficial unless otherwise noted.<br>
<br>
5. If a representative fails to maintain contact with the MCS and/or participate in community discussion for a period of more than two weeks, that representative will be blacklisted and their status revoked.<br>
<br>
6. It is the responsibility of the member nation to choose an active representative, and for that representative to maintain an active relationship with the MCS community.<br>
<br>
7. Replacing an existing representative may only be done by the current head of state for the particular member nation in question.<br>
<br>
8. The MCS reserves the right to revoke or suspend a representative if it is deemed they are being detrimental to the community.<br>
<br>
This is a draft plan I wish to discuss before implementing. That will also give people time to plan and prepare should it be decided to pursue this plan.

<p><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p074.ezboard.com/fmicronationaln ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.hometown.aol.com/augustinbar ... gpart1.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.geocities.com/microcartography"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.hometown.aol.com/augustinbar ... gpart2.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p202.ezboard.com/bbabkha"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.hometown.aol.com/augustinbar ... gpart3.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p217.ezboard.com/bminorca" target="top"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.hometown.aol.com/augustinbar ... gpart4.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>
ejen ranti taicardainre

Re: Official Representation

Post by ejen ranti taicardainre »

Two weeks seems a little harsh. There isnt always something here to talk about, so I odnt think people should have to post every two weeks. It would only leed to unwanted spam.. we really dont need all these people replying to every claim like happens at the moment.

<p><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>ejen ranti taicardainre</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> (Lachlan Powers)<br>
<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.grand-commonwealth.com/forum"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The Grand Commonwealth</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> - <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.aerlig.net/forum">Aerlig</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> - <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p074.ezboard.com/bmicronationaln ... <!--EZCODE LINK END--> - <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p200.ezboard.com/bbaronyoftreesi ... <!--EZCODE LINK END--> - <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.mncentre.net">mncentre</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> - <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.mncentre.net/eifa">EIFA</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> - <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://sander.domainmultitude.com/lemur ... <!--EZCODE LINK END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>
Emperador Augustin

Re: Official Representation

Post by Emperador Augustin »

By two weeks I mean't just someday waving me down on AIM to say "Hi! We're still alive!". It saves me the effort of trying to check on everyone.

<p><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p074.ezboard.com/fmicronationaln ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.hometown.aol.com/augustinbar ... gpart1.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.geocities.com/microcartography"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.hometown.aol.com/augustinbar ... gpart2.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p202.ezboard.com/bbabkha"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.hometown.aol.com/augustinbar ... gpart3.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p217.ezboard.com/bminorca" target="top"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.hometown.aol.com/augustinbar ... gpart4.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>
extreme007

Re: Official Representation

Post by extreme007 »

Why not let the convention send out members to do that kind of job.. and then report here to the MCS...

<p><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:red;font-size:small;">Discover, Invent, Theories, Experiment,<br>
<br>
Advance Science,<br>
Advance Extremism,<br>
(in <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.karnali.co.nr/" target="top">Karnali, Republic of</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->)</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--></p><i></i>
ejen ranti taicardainre

Re: Official Representation

Post by ejen ranti taicardainre »

The convention isnt a part of the MCS extreme!

<p><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>ejen ranti taicardainre</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> (Lachlan Powers)<br>
<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.grand-commonwealth.com/forum"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The Grand Commonwealth</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> - <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.aerlig.net/forum">Aerlig</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> - <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p074.ezboard.com/bmicronationaln ... <!--EZCODE LINK END--> - <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p200.ezboard.com/bbaronyoftreesi ... <!--EZCODE LINK END--> - <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.mncentre.net">mncentre</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> - <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.mncentre.net/eifa">EIFA</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> - <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://sander.domainmultitude.com/lemur ... <!--EZCODE LINK END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>
jdsager

Re: Official Representation

Post by jdsager »

Maybe there can be a monthly roll call here or something like that.

<p></p><i></i>
President Darcy of Anthel

Re: Official Representation

Post by President Darcy of Anthel »

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="font-size:xx-small;">2. Representatives are chosen by whatever means their home nation chooses (i.e. election, decree, etc.).<br>
<br>
<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>snip</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br>
<br>
4. Representatives will be the ONLY communication considered to be official between a member country and the MCS. ...<br>
<br>
<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>snip</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br>
<br>
6. It is the responsibility of the member nation to choose an active representative, and for that representative to maintain an active relationship with the MCS community.<br>
<br>
7. Replacing an existing representative may only be done by the current head of state for the particular member nation in question.</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
Clause 7 is inconsistent with clause 4, unless of course the Head of State also happens to be a representative.<br>
<br>
If you reword clause 2 slightly -<br>
<br>
<!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:red;">2. A member nation shall choose its representative(s) by any means lawful to that nation and verifiable by other members and the MCS.</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br>
<br>
And clause 7 -<br>
<br>
<!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:red;">7. A person claiming to be a representative, or a replacement representative, must provide evidence (a link) to show that clause 2 above has been complied with.</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br>
<br>
Then you have a watertight system.<br>


<p><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>John P Darcy</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>
President<br>
<!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:red;font-family:verdana;font-size:large;">Republic of Anthelia</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://anthelia.net/mn/flag_anim_68x50.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>
shadowbladeprime

Re: Official Representation

Post by shadowbladeprime »

from what i have seen it looks like a good idea and yes augustin i'am teknoblade3442

<p>---------------------------<br>
War is just a extension of life- where all must answer the call of battle- general ternsklvich- 2nd Woodstanic armoured division</p><i></i>
bert of liberi

Re: Official Representation

Post by bert of liberi »

well, I'm going to go a little of topic here, but it's pointless to create a new topic.<br>
<br>
As foreign officials trying to reach Regio Mayo may have noticed, our website is down, and is not likely going to come online again, noone wants to pay the money to host the site.<br>
<br>
We are currently in the final stage of forming a federation with Charlotta and the Republic Flanders, and we have received temporal housing on Flanders' Forum, which can be found at <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.emery.be/vrv/">www.emery.be/ ... <!--EZCODE LINK END-->

<p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmicronationaln ... iberi>bert of liberi</A> at: 9/12/05 0:07<br></i>
KieranCollins

Re: Official Representation

Post by KieranCollins »

I have a few issues with this proposal. Firstly it lays down a proposal on how we should work our government systems. For example, although we have a King (head of state). He leaves matters of government to his Ministers. When I say he leaves it to his Ministers I mean he leaves us incharge of the running and decision making and does not comment nor intervene on events most of the time.<br>
<br>
I also feel that this imposes upon a Nation State to redraft or create, in some situations, the laws of our country. A step too far by the MCS I feel.<br>
<br>
I don't really understand why we need any sort of representative structure written down to be a member state of the MCS in any case.<br>
<br>
I am afraid I would not support this proposal, on the basis of its wording and in its nature.<br>
<br>
Kieran Collins, OED<br>
Minister of Foreign Affairs<br>
<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.fefa.org.uk" target="top">Department of Foreign Affairs</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br>
Kingdom of Lovely<br>
<br>


<p></p><i></i>
bert of liberi

Re: Official Representation

Post by bert of liberi »

Is there any chance that he may asign a new foreign minister?<br>
<br>
If not, why are you all worked up about?

<p><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br>
<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.emery.be/vrv/forum/index.php?c=7">Regio Mayo emergency forum</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></p><i></i>
bert of liberi

Re: Official Representation

Post by bert of liberi »

Damn flood control, look what it made me do, I posted the same post twice

<p><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br>
<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.emery.be/vrv/forum/index.php?c=7">Regio Mayo emergency forum</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmicronationaln ... iberi>bert of liberi</A> at: 10/12/05 0:59<br></i>
Emperador Augustin

Re: Official Representation

Post by Emperador Augustin »

The fact that there has been multiple persons here, from several member nations, claiming to represent Lovely, Shireroth or some other member, but then actually having no power to do so, highlights the necessity for a member nation to declare one or two official representatives to the MCS. Then the reps would be the only people with the power to represent a particular nation and make changes.<br>
<br>
The reason for naming the head of state as the only one who can overrule a rep is that it is a fail safe rule. Ask the question - What if a rep goes rouge and tries to split the nation he or she represents apart? The logical move here is that the head of state can dismiss a rouge rep should that scenario ever arise.

<p><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p074.ezboard.com/fmicronationaln ... <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.hometown.aol.com/augustinbar ... gpart1.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.geocities.com/microcartography"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.hometown.aol.com/augustinbar ... gpart2.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p202.ezboard.com/bbabkha"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.hometown.aol.com/augustinbar ... gpart3.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://p217.ezboard.com/bminorca" target="top"><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.hometown.aol.com/augustinbar ... gpart4.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--></p><i></i>
Neil Spall

Re: Official Representation

Post by Neil Spall »

Perhaps the Foreign Ministers would be the best people for the job?

<p><b>Neil Spall</b>
<hr />
<li>Minister for Foreign Affairs, Tourism & Defence
<li>Commissioner, National Police Office
<li>Republic of Anthelia
<hr />
<li>Lieutenant General
<li>Minister of Defence
<li>The Republic of Treithar

</p><i></i>
bert of liberi

Re: Official Representation

Post by bert of liberi »

foreign ministers can go rogue too.<br>
<br>
<br>
And besides in a country like Mayo, it's the parliament, not the government who has the final say on things.

<p><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br>
<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.emery.be/vrv/forum/index.php?c=7">Regio Mayo emergency forum</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></p><i></i>
Locked