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Free cities
Back in the old days, when a country disappeared, some of its larger towns remained on the map for a while as free cities for a few reasons:
1. More realistic; the Roman Empire fell, but Rome is still around.
2. Fills in otherwise big swaths of blank space.
3. Easier for the cartographers than bothering to remove them.
It seems this policy no longer exists. What do yall think of reviving it?
1. More realistic; the Roman Empire fell, but Rome is still around.
2. Fills in otherwise big swaths of blank space.
3. Easier for the cartographers than bothering to remove them.
It seems this policy no longer exists. What do yall think of reviving it?
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Come to think of it- there was a city near Matbaa's West Cibolan coast which was in that situation, but nobody knew why.
I'd be more than happy to support this measure
I'd be more than happy to support this measure
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Well, most Shirereithans are like the timeless gods of all things MCS...
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i like that idea.
i'm guessing these 'free cities' would only appear on the unclaimed land? what if someone claimed the land where the cities were based? would the cities be renamed or just wiped off?
i'm guessing these 'free cities' would only appear on the unclaimed land? what if someone claimed the land where the cities were based? would the cities be renamed or just wiped off?
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fair enough...
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i bet you have matthew, i bet you have...
ps. your location says Northman, Repulbic of Passas... i'm sure you're a republic
ps. your location says Northman, Repulbic of Passas... i'm sure you're a republic
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I think they were removed cos they looked a bit like someone had forgot to remove them, because they ewre in the same color.
If you change the colour of the city blob, say to yellow for free cities then it'll look fine.
If you change the colour of the city blob, say to yellow for free cities then it'll look fine.
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The MCS doesn't own the city names nor does the next micronation that gains that bit of the MCS map as its representative location on Micras. The policy was essentially revoked by Ryan because of intellectual property issues since these cities only exist in an IP document after all.
You can't use the "Rome was still around after the fall of the Roman Empire" argument to justify such a policy for the MCS, or even Geiss, as micronations are nothing more than protected intellectual property of the creators/IP holders and that prevents simulating "the real world" since the real world laws dictate that the MCS has to remove any IP associated with the micronation that is no longer a participant (i.e. the MCS loses its license to use the IP - specifically the city names in this case - of the micronation when that micronation ceases to be represented on the MCS map).
You can't use the "Rome was still around after the fall of the Roman Empire" argument to justify such a policy for the MCS, or even Geiss, as micronations are nothing more than protected intellectual property of the creators/IP holders and that prevents simulating "the real world" since the real world laws dictate that the MCS has to remove any IP associated with the micronation that is no longer a participant (i.e. the MCS loses its license to use the IP - specifically the city names in this case - of the micronation when that micronation ceases to be represented on the MCS map).
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That's a very good point, Liam. And I suppose that for successive micronations who claim the land, they would have to use all the other cities and landmarks that nation had previously used before it died. That said, I'd be pretty pissed off if someone used my map of, say, Beth Sanaar for a city of their micronation in the same position, without my consent.
And if we are indeed going to use this new rule, I pity whoever claims Matbaa's old land after we die!
And if we are indeed going to use this new rule, I pity whoever claims Matbaa's old land after we die!
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Unless, with Liam's point, nations agree to them remaining as a part of signing the Charter. Nations joining the GSO acknowledge that their cities shall remain on the map even after nations are removed, as a part of the realistic simulation.
Mind you, the GSO had the benefit of nations originally signing a Charter. It may be a little harder to introduce the rule retrospectively here.
Mind you, the GSO had the benefit of nations originally signing a Charter. It may be a little harder to introduce the rule retrospectively here.
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Liam has a good point.
However, I'm talking about nationst that we remove for lack of activity, not nations that leave to go to the GSO or somewhere. Technically, they've given us a license to use their intellectual property by asking to be put on the map, and have never revoked that license unless they actually ask to leave. Therefore, legally I would think there wouldn't be anything wrong with it.
However, maybe an "opt-out" system in the official application form would be better.
However, I'm talking about nationst that we remove for lack of activity, not nations that leave to go to the GSO or somewhere. Technically, they've given us a license to use their intellectual property by asking to be put on the map, and have never revoked that license unless they actually ask to leave. Therefore, legally I would think there wouldn't be anything wrong with it.
However, maybe an "opt-out" system in the official application form would be better.